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Guru3D.com » News » Samsung is experiencing production issues with its QD-OLED displays

Samsung is experiencing production issues with its QD-OLED displays

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/08/2022 09:40 AM | source: thelec | 30 comment(s)
Samsung is experiencing production issues with its QD-OLED displays

The manufacturing of Samsung's qd-oled screens appears to be difficult. According to TheElec sources in South Korea, the qd-oled display yield is approximately 30%. Connecting organic material to the panels, seems to be a challenge.

Samsung Display is unlikely to determine in the first half of this year whether to increase its investment in quantum dot (QD)-OLED panel production capacity this year, TheElec has discovered. According to insiders, the corporation is unlikely to do an investment evaluation on QD-OLED during the first half of 2022. Samsung affiliates conduct frequent investment assessments of critical businesses in order to communicate their findings to the Samsung Group's leadership and obtain approval for large expenditure plans.

Samsung Display believes it has insufficient data such as customer reaction and market demand to make an investment review for QD-OLED, sources said.

QD-OLED panel __ called QD Display by the display maker __ is a large, high-end panel used in premium TVs or monitors.

The biggest obstacle for the company in deciding whether to spend more on QD-OLED production was also the low production yield rate of the panels, which was around 30% currently, they said.

Samsung Display was facing difficulty especially in the deposition process __ where organic materials are deposited on the panel.

The yield rate for the front-end processes of the production, which includes deposition, came down to 30% __ the ultimate yield rate, when including back-end processes such as modularization, was even lower, the sources said.

This means Samsung Display’s production capacity for QD-OLED will likely remain 30,000 substrates per month next year, same as in 2022, they said.

This is because even if an investment review was conducted during the second half of this year, considering the time it takes to place orders for equipment as well as their delivery and installation, Samsung Display will only be able to activate new production lines in 2024 at the earliest to expand its production capacity, they said.

The South Korean panel maker currently operates one production line called Q1 at its Asan plant.

The line uses Gen 8.5 (2200x2500mm) substrates and has a capacity of 30,000 substrates per month.

This is not enough to expand aggressively in the high-end panel market. The sources said Samsung Display can likely offer up to early-1 million units of QD-OLED panels for TVs and monitors per year with its current capacity. However, it will need to increase its yield rate for the panels to 70% within the year to achieve this volume, they said.

Meanwhile, rival LG Display, which offers white (W)-OLED panels, is aiming to ship 10 million units this year.

The company is offering more affordable W-OLED panels such as those with 60Hz refresh rate to expand its share in the OLED TV space.

It has a total capacity of 170,000 substrates per month, near six times that of Samsung Display, from its facilities in South Korea and China.

Samsung Display could also decide to not to expand QD-OLED production and instead jump to QD nanorod LED (QNED) panels instead.

This will depend on how much QD-OLED Samsung Electronics, Samsung Display’s biggest customer, decides to buy going forward.







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butjer1010
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#5990979 Posted on: 02/08/2022 11:55 AM
Where have i seen that before???? Oh Yeah - raising prices?!?

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#5990992 Posted on: 02/08/2022 12:40 PM
what does samsung care for the yield? They buy them from LG, LG is the one with "30% yield" 'problem' , not samsung.

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#5991021 Posted on: 02/08/2022 02:33 PM
what does samsung care for the yield? They buy them from LG, LG is the one with "30% yield" 'problem' , not samsung.


What are you talking about? Samsung is manufacturing their own TV/monitor sized OLED tech using blue OLED emitters and a red/green QD color filter. I wouldn't be surprised to maybe see Samsung source some LG WOLED panels for a mid-ranged TV model, but QD-OLED is 100% Samsung manufactured and has nothing to do with LG.

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#5991033 Posted on: 02/08/2022 03:32 PM
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/samsung-will-use-lg-oled-panels-for-new-displays-report/1100-6489978/
...as an example...

Samsung can't make LG's proprietary screens, without some sort of comp. at least.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/samsung-set-to-finally-make-oled-tvs-thanks-to-deal-with-lg/ar-BB1fzdgl

edit: I read a bit further and I have no idea what is going on with QD-OLED especially with QLED being the latest that Samsung presented at CES 2022 and QD-OLED TVs being made by Sony ... I don't really use or buy TVs :p

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#5991038 Posted on: 02/08/2022 03:40 PM
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/samsung-will-use-lg-oled-panels-for-new-displays-report/1100-6489978/
...as an example...

Samsung can't make LG's proprietary screens, without some sort of comp. at least.

edit: I read a bit further and I have no idea what is going on with QD-OLED and QLED being the latest that Samsung presented at CES 2022 and QD-OLED being made by Sony instead... I don't really use or buy TVs :p

Samsung Display is making QD-OLED and is selling panels to both Samsung Electronics (TV manufacturer) and Sony.
Samsung Electronics is also buying LG OLED panels allegedly, as well as continuing to sell QLED panels from Samsung Display.

It looks like QD-OLED won't hit consumer markets at normal prices due to this yield issue, which is why they also have done a deal with LG as backup.

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