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Running third-party applications in the Background Might Get You Banned in Destiny 2 PC
Destiny 2 released for PC earlier today some players report that have been banned. The ban-wave seems to largely stem from a strict policy when it comes to applications running in the background.
Posting on the official website, Bungie has pointed out that the PC version of Destiny 2 will “resist attempts” by third-party applications for access reports segmentnext. This means that Bungie is actively blocking 3rd party monitoring tools like Fraps and Afterburner. I just installed the game to check it out and cannot replicate a ban. However, while I am not banned, the game definitely is preventing the MSI AfterBurner overlay from hooking into the game. So Bungie at the very least is blocking Afterburner and similar software in a pro-active manner. Which is a new low as apparently, GeForce Experience was white-listed?
Blocking 3rd party overlays ... can I just say WTF Bungie ?!
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This does not only include suspiciously injected code for cheating purposes but also a number of common services that players have been using for years.
To begin with, the only method to stream and capture gameplay footage is to use Nvidia Shadowplay or AMD ReLive while playing in fullscreen. Using applications such as OBS and XSplit in any way is not permitted. Other recording software such as Razer Cortex, Fraps, and Dxtory also have similar restrictions.
Secondly, players will be banned in Destiny 2 for using overlays from third-party applications. This includes applications for voice communications such as Discord and Mumble as well as for hardware monitoring such as MSI Afterburner, EVGA Precision, and Fraps.
“The examples listed are not all-encompassing, and players may encounter issues with the features of other applications that rely on code being inserted into the game client,” Bungie warned. “Players are to run these applications’ features at their discretion while running Destiny 2.”
As far as the developer is concerned, the PC version of Destiny 2 will run fine as long as players disable overlays and use the aforementioned applications for streaming and capturing. However, many have reported that they were banned nonetheless for running absolutely nothing but the Battle.net client in the background. One player shared on Reddit that he was running the game on a new laptop with just the operating system and the game itself but was still banned.
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#5485135 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:13 AM
Seeing how I use Mumble and MSIAB when playing games with friends, looks like I won't give this game a try after all. Not until they relax or reverse these ridiculous policies.
Seeing how I use Mumble and MSIAB when playing games with friends, looks like I won't give this game a try after all. Not until they relax or reverse these ridiculous policies.
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#5485140 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:19 AM
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#5485143 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:22 AM
Holy crap, this is totaly new level of stupid . i guess they will ban You for using GPUz also
Holy crap, this is totaly new level of stupid . i guess they will ban You for using GPUz also
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#5485146 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:32 AM
I hope catching cheaters work, otherwise its just pointless.
I hope catching cheaters work, otherwise its just pointless.
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#5485148 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:38 AM
As I use Msi Afterburner with my Msi hardware my wallet is staying shut until this game has been out a while to see what impact game security has on legal purchasers
As I use Msi Afterburner with my Msi hardware my wallet is staying shut until this game has been out a while to see what impact game security has on legal purchasers
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#5485156 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:03 AM
ROFLMAO No Live stream for Destiny 2
ROFLMAO No Live stream for Destiny 2
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#5485157 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:06 AM
Those who started this hype story in news should really read Bungie statements before trying to misinterpret them. Using any of such applications do not result in ban, D2 anticheat will simply restrict overlay related part of their functionality as they are explicitly declaring:
"Hardware performance monitors will be able to function alongside Destiny 2 PC, but any form of overlay functionality will be restricted."
Those who started this hype story in news should really read Bungie statements before trying to misinterpret them. Using any of such applications do not result in ban, D2 anticheat will simply restrict overlay related part of their functionality as they are explicitly declaring:
"Hardware performance monitors will be able to function alongside Destiny 2 PC, but any form of overlay functionality will be restricted."
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#5485158 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:07 AM
Hmm ran Destiny 2 yesterday for over an hour with MSI Afterburner running - no ban here ?
Although I didn't have the OSD running, but only temp monitoring on the taskbar.
I guess that won't get you banned.
Hmm ran Destiny 2 yesterday for over an hour with MSI Afterburner running - no ban here ?
Although I didn't have the OSD running, but only temp monitoring on the taskbar.
I guess that won't get you banned.
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#5485159 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:07 AM
This is false!
https://twitter.com/shockandshaw/status/923033887269257216
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236577699?sort=0&page=0&path=1
Overlays and third party applications wont result in ban.
This is false!
https://twitter.com/shockandshaw/status/923033887269257216
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236577699?sort=0&page=0&path=1
Overlays and third party applications wont result in ban.
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#5485164 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:20 AM
Guess many PC gamers/streamers are going to be pissed because of this. Bungie has to proof to D2 gaming community that because of their strict policies cheat protection works flawlessly because if cheaters somehow find the way to bypass their cheat protection and infiltrate into game this game is doomed, massive number of players will gonna ask for refund, Bungie is gonna be flooded with petitions to loose these policies, those willing to buy game on day one will wait to see how situations is going to develop... nothing more than lost money and headaches for Bungie team.
Hope Bungie is not going to mess up this...
Guess many PC gamers/streamers are going to be pissed because of this. Bungie has to proof to D2 gaming community that because of their strict policies cheat protection works flawlessly because if cheaters somehow find the way to bypass their cheat protection and infiltrate into game this game is doomed, massive number of players will gonna ask for refund, Bungie is gonna be flooded with petitions to loose these policies, those willing to buy game on day one will wait to see how situations is going to develop... nothing more than lost money and headaches for Bungie team.
Hope Bungie is not going to mess up this...
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#5485165 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:26 AM
This is false!
https://twitter.com/shockandshaw/status/923033887269257216
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236577699?sort=0&page=0&path=1
Overlays and third party applications wont result in ban.
Sure, meanwhile:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236551031?sort=0&page=0
This is false!
https://twitter.com/shockandshaw/status/923033887269257216
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236577699?sort=0&page=0&path=1
Overlays and third party applications wont result in ban.
Sure, meanwhile:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236551031?sort=0&page=0
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#5485169 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:36 AM
Well, preventing players from ever playing your game is one way of reducing the amount of cheaters... Though this sounds like a strategy that's not economically viable in the long run.
Guess they'll blame the PC players for the low sales that are sure to come for the PC version if they don't resolve the issues contained in this anti-cheat functionality soon.
Well, preventing players from ever playing your game is one way of reducing the amount of cheaters... Though this sounds like a strategy that's not economically viable in the long run.
Guess they'll blame the PC players for the low sales that are sure to come for the PC version if they don't resolve the issues contained in this anti-cheat functionality soon.
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#5485173 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:43 AM
Sure, meanwhile:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236551031?sort=0&page=0
I've seen the some of the threads claiming this, but i've seen far more replies that says they have no problem running MSI Afterburner og other thirdparty application with overlay in the background. The overlay did just not show up in D2.
I have not myself tried running MSI Afterburner with D2, but Discord Overlay did not work in D2, but did not ban me. A friend also tried gamecapture with OBS in exclusive fullscreen. Did not work, but did not ban him.
Sure, meanwhile:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/236551031?sort=0&page=0
I've seen the some of the threads claiming this, but i've seen far more replies that says they have no problem running MSI Afterburner og other thirdparty application with overlay in the background. The overlay did just not show up in D2.
I have not myself tried running MSI Afterburner with D2, but Discord Overlay did not work in D2, but did not ban me. A friend also tried gamecapture with OBS in exclusive fullscreen. Did not work, but did not ban him.
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#5485176 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:53 AM
Hmm ran Destiny 2 yesterday for over an hour with MSI Afterburner running - no ban here ?
Although I didn't have the OSD running, but only temp monitoring on the taskbar.
I guess that won't get you banned.
I use MSI Afterburner in Logitech LCD G19....do you think bann me?
I dont understand this company
Hmm ran Destiny 2 yesterday for over an hour with MSI Afterburner running - no ban here ?
Although I didn't have the OSD running, but only temp monitoring on the taskbar.
I guess that won't get you banned.
I use MSI Afterburner in Logitech LCD G19....do you think bann me?
I dont understand this company
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Sounds like there will be many refunds paid to the randomly banned customers.