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Review: Gears of War 4 DirectX12 PC graphics performance
Today Gears of War 4 is released in it's DirectX 12 flavor. We look at the game for the Windows PC platform. We'll test the game on the PC platform relative towards graphics card performance with the latest AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers. Multiple graphics cards are being tested and benchmarked. We have a look at performance with the newest graphics cards and technologies.
Read our review right here.
** article updated with three additional cards and AMD FX 8370 vs Intel Core i7 5960X CPU scaling results.
Review: Mafia III - VGA PC graphics performance benchmarks - 10/09/2016 10:37 AM
With the new 1.01 Patch in effect we are free from 30 FPS caps, yes it is time to look at Mafia III, the Guru3D way. Multiple graphics cards are being tested and bench-marked with the latest cards suc...
Review: In-Win 303 PC Chassis - 10/07/2016 06:47 AM
In-Win recently released the 303 PC Chassis which we review. it is a product series that is designed with that more compact form factor in mind, yet with nice aesthetics and yes, it has been fitted wi...
Review: EK-XLC Predator 280 AIO CPU & MSI GTX 1080 Liquid Cooling - 09/30/2016 08:00 AM
EK today announces availability of three new Predator series AIO coolers. We will test the 280mm Predator on a Core i7 4790K processor and will add a GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X from MSI as well to th...
Review: Be Quiet! Silent Loop 280 Liquid Cooling Review - 09/27/2016 12:00 PM
be quiet ! today launches their first ever liquid cooling system kit. We jump right on it and review the Silent Loop 280, an All-in-One Liquid cooling kit that is decent in performance with a 280mm ra...
Review: Gigabyte XTREME GAMING XP1200M Power Supply - 09/22/2016 10:53 AM
Gigabyte released the XTREME GAMING XP1200M Platinum power supply series. It's 1200W, Platinum certified, fairly silent, modular and can be spotted for just 225 EUR. Hell they even throw in a 5 year ...
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#5344039 Posted on: 10/10/2016 06:33 PM
Now that is kind performance games should have with those kinda cards especial with DX12, could this be the first pc title to be properly optimized ??
Make one wonder what really happen with deux ex and its optimizing
Now that is kind performance games should have with those kinda cards especial with DX12, could this be the first pc title to be properly optimized ??
Make one wonder what really happen with deux ex and its optimizing
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#5344045 Posted on: 10/10/2016 06:46 PM
Now that is kind performance games should have with those kinda cards especial with DX12, could this be the first pc title to be properly optimized ??
Make one wonder what really happen with deux ex and its optimizing
Well, The Coalition worked with Epic during the development process. I'm sure Epic has a better understanding of DX12 and it's potential pitfalls than Nixxes does. I also think it's significantly harder for a company to come in after a game has been developed and tack on a bunch of PC features, then it is to have them build the game from the ground up with PC in mind.
As I seem to say in every DX12 thread - It was pretty clear leading up to the API that it would be a significant increase in developer responsibility and required talent for a proper implementation. I'd rather devs dive in and learn it quickly, with DX11 fallback (like Deus Ex/ROTR have) then have to wait like 3 years for proper adoption.
I personally think most of these companies are handling it fine. As long as it's well optimized out of the box, or ships with a fallback (preferably with no reduction in image quality) I don't mind if the implementation is a little wonky. As long as it's improving over time (and as a whole it seems to be) it's fine with me.
Now that is kind performance games should have with those kinda cards especial with DX12, could this be the first pc title to be properly optimized ??
Make one wonder what really happen with deux ex and its optimizing
Well, The Coalition worked with Epic during the development process. I'm sure Epic has a better understanding of DX12 and it's potential pitfalls than Nixxes does. I also think it's significantly harder for a company to come in after a game has been developed and tack on a bunch of PC features, then it is to have them build the game from the ground up with PC in mind.
As I seem to say in every DX12 thread - It was pretty clear leading up to the API that it would be a significant increase in developer responsibility and required talent for a proper implementation. I'd rather devs dive in and learn it quickly, with DX11 fallback (like Deus Ex/ROTR have) then have to wait like 3 years for proper adoption.
I personally think most of these companies are handling it fine. As long as it's well optimized out of the box, or ships with a fallback (preferably with no reduction in image quality) I don't mind if the implementation is a little wonky. As long as it's improving over time (and as a whole it seems to be) it's fine with me.
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#5344047 Posted on: 10/10/2016 06:53 PM
What I don't really understand is why these dx12 benchmarks are all with huge CPUs, when it's demonstrated that dx12 gain is most noticeable in low end CPUs.
What I don't really understand is why these dx12 benchmarks are all with huge CPUs, when it's demonstrated that dx12 gain is most noticeable in low end CPUs.
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#5344053 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:29 PM
*snip, no longer relevant*
Nice to see a well running DX12 game for a change! I hope by the time the game's price comes down the W10 Store/UWP would have matured a bit too.
Would like to try this out.
*snip, no longer relevant*
Nice to see a well running DX12 game for a change! I hope by the time the game's price comes down the W10 Store/UWP would have matured a bit too.
Would like to try this out.
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#5344054 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:30 PM
Thank you almighty HH for another great game performance review!
I think the below quotation sums it up quite well:
"... This actually is a proper console port as it seems."
Thank you almighty HH for another great game performance review!
I think the below quotation sums it up quite well:
"... This actually is a proper console port as it seems."
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#5344060 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:39 PM
It's nice to see a well optimized DX12 title for a change. Now it will be nice to see more Vulkan titles.
It's nice to see a well optimized DX12 title for a change. Now it will be nice to see more Vulkan titles.
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#5344062 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:42 PM
At least the performance from both camps is where it should be. Every card seems to fall exactly where you would expect.
At least the performance from both camps is where it should be. Every card seems to fall exactly where you would expect.
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#5344063 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:45 PM
Can't play right now anyway on PC because my mobo is dead...And my old XPS can't run it for sure, but I can't wait until I can! Until then I'm gonna be playing the heck out of it on Xbox.
Can't play right now anyway on PC because my mobo is dead...And my old XPS can't run it for sure, but I can't wait until I can! Until then I'm gonna be playing the heck out of it on Xbox.
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#5344069 Posted on: 10/10/2016 07:58 PM
For only 279e R9 fury is a good card
For only 279e R9 fury is a good card
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#5344079 Posted on: 10/10/2016 08:20 PM
Because it's a GPU performance benchmark. If he used a crap CPU that could potentially cause a bottleneck then he wouldn't get reliable results.
What I don't really understand is why these dx12 benchmarks are all with huge CPUs, when it's demonstrated that dx12 gain is most noticeable in low end CPUs.
Because it's a GPU performance benchmark. If he used a crap CPU that could potentially cause a bottleneck then he wouldn't get reliable results.
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#5344099 Posted on: 10/10/2016 08:54 PM
How about playing PC with friends on Xbox?
Crossplatform was the name of the game
That will be my situation, lets see if its working at start or is there somekind of "hulabaloo" going on...
How about playing PC with friends on Xbox?
Crossplatform was the name of the game
That will be my situation, lets see if its working at start or is there somekind of "hulabaloo" going on...
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#5344100 Posted on: 10/10/2016 08:54 PM
That's why some do separate CPU benchmarks.
But there is no comparison to DX11 so there is no way to show any kind of gain, therefore his comment doesn't make much sense here.
Because it's a GPU performance benchmark. If he used a crap CPU that could potentially cause a bottleneck then he wouldn't get reliable results.
That's why some do separate CPU benchmarks.
But there is no comparison to DX11 so there is no way to show any kind of gain, therefore his comment doesn't make much sense here.
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#5344105 Posted on: 10/10/2016 09:00 PM
This aging 280X can keep 30fps in 1440p, not bad. I would say much better than a Mafia mess.
This aging 280X can keep 30fps in 1440p, not bad. I would say much better than a Mafia mess.
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#5344113 Posted on: 10/10/2016 09:08 PM
@Don Vito Corleone
Please make sure that GTX 1070 has 8GB not 6GB ;-)
page 8 - VRAM Usage
Great article
@Don Vito Corleone
Please make sure that GTX 1070 has 8GB not 6GB ;-)
page 8 - VRAM Usage
Great article
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Minor typo under table of contents drop down links.
2440P instead of 1440P
Shouldn't there be a DX11 to DX12 comparison IQ/FPS wise?