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Philips (MMD) To Release 43in Ultra HD Monitor with HDR1000
Now we're talking proper retina burning HDR levels! MMD, who sells under the Philips brand, releases a 43" monitor Ultra HD monitor (3840x2160 pixels) that is DisplayHDR 1000 certified, that means it can manage an eye soring brightness of 1000cd/m2.
The Philips 436M6VBPAB has been fitted with an MVA panel that has 32 local dimming zones. With an entirely white screen, the display still reaches a proper 720 cd/m2. The MVA panel displays 97.6 percent of the DCI-p3 color space using a quantum dot filter on the panel and the backlight. The monitor supports hdr10 signals and, in combination with the maximum brightness, it provides a DisplayHDR 1000 certification from VESA. MMD reports a static contrast of 4000: 1, its refresh rate is 60Hz. The screen also supports Adaptive Sync, and combined with HDR10 compatibility, this screen should be FreeSync 2 compatible.
The connectivity includes displayport 1.2 (x3 - full size, mini and USB-c), one HDMI 2.0 connection, a USB 3.0 hub, analog audio inputs and outputs in 3,5mm format and built-in stereo 7W speakers with 'DTS sound'. The specified gray-to-gray response time is 4ms. MMD will sell the Philips 436M6VBPAB for a suggested retail price of 799 euros. According to MMD, which has a license to use the Philips brand name on monitors, the monitor is mainly intended for console gamers. Availability is not yet announced.
| Brand model | Philips 436M6VBPAB |
|---|---|
| Diagonal | 43 inches |
| Resolution | 3840x2160 |
| Panel type | Vertical Alignment |
| HDR | VESA HDR1000, HDR10 |
| Max. Brightness | 1000 cd / m² (peak), 720 cd / m² (full screen) |
| Color depth | 10-bit (8-bit + FRC), 1070 million colors |
| Color range | DCI-P3 97.6%, sRGB / BT.709 100% |
| Response time | 4 ms |
| Synchronization | Adaptive Sync |
| Dyn. Contrast | 50,000,000: 1 |
| Connections | HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.2 (mini, standard), USB-C (DP alt.) |
| Audio | 3.5 mm input and output (headphone) |
| USB hub | 3.0 |
| Speakers | 2x 7W |
| Particularities | Low blue light, flicker free, PbP |
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#5539998 Posted on: 04/23/2018 10:33 AM
= Not HDR10 spec.
8-bit + FRC = Not HDR10 spec.
HDR has long way to go. And I do not think I'll jump on that wagon any time soon.
400cd/m^2 is quite a lot already in case you play darker game and then there is bright lightning flash in storm.
I know that HDR is good addition. I remember FarCry HDR patch. Was good even while being basic. And I would still prefer nice visual effect on normal screen, than being blinded for real by 1000cd/m^2.
But use of HDR screen to enhance contrast, that's different story. probably one which people behind HDR TV/monitor technology do not follow.
1000 cd / m² (peak),
720 cd / m² (full screen) = Not HDR10 spec.8-bit + FRC
= Not HDR10 spec.HDR has long way to go. And I do not think I'll jump on that wagon any time soon.
400cd/m^2 is quite a lot already in case you play darker game and then there is bright lightning flash in storm.
I know that HDR is good addition. I remember FarCry HDR patch. Was good even while being basic. And I would still prefer nice visual effect on normal screen, than being blinded for real by 1000cd/m^2.
But use of HDR screen to enhance contrast, that's different story. probably one which people behind HDR TV/monitor technology do not follow.
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#5539999 Posted on: 04/23/2018 10:35 AM
= Not HDR10 spec.
8-bit + FRC = Not HDR10 spec.
There are different HDR specs under different tiers. Many displays claim HDR capability but are not 'true HDR'. Vesa have established their own specs which I believe tries to ensure adequate enough standards for displays that claim HDR capability. This is under the "DisplayHDR" specs of Vesa for which this display is certified.
https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/
1000 cd / m² (peak),
720 cd / m² (full screen) = Not HDR10 spec.8-bit + FRC
= Not HDR10 spec.There are different HDR specs under different tiers. Many displays claim HDR capability but are not 'true HDR'. Vesa have established their own specs which I believe tries to ensure adequate enough standards for displays that claim HDR capability. This is under the "DisplayHDR" specs of Vesa for which this display is certified.
https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/
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#5540004 Posted on: 04/23/2018 11:04 AM
Meanwhile, it has an actual native contrast ratio of <2000 /sarcasm
Meanwhile, it has an actual native contrast ratio of <2000 /sarcasm
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#5540007 Posted on: 04/23/2018 11:36 AM
60Hz?
lol.
60Hz?
lol.
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#5540019 Posted on: 04/23/2018 12:31 PM
60Hz?
lol.
Not all display buyers have same priorities. I'd go for this over a smaller, lower res higher hz display. Fast paced competitive gaming not everyones top prerogative.
60Hz?
lol.
Not all display buyers have same priorities. I'd go for this over a smaller, lower res higher hz display. Fast paced competitive gaming not everyones top prerogative.
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#5540023 Posted on: 04/23/2018 12:46 PM
= Not HDR10 spec.
8-bit + FRC = Not HDR10 spec.
Actually both are fine for highest HDR1000 specification released by VESA.
https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/
1000 cd / m² (peak),
720 cd / m² (full screen) = Not HDR10 spec.8-bit + FRC
= Not HDR10 spec.Actually both are fine for highest HDR1000 specification released by VESA.
https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/
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#5540029 Posted on: 04/23/2018 01:16 PM
60Hz?
lol.
From the article:
"According to MMD, which has a license to use the Philips brand name on monitors, the monitor is mainly intended for console gamers."
60Hz?
lol.
From the article:
"According to MMD, which has a license to use the Philips brand name on monitors, the monitor is mainly intended for console gamers."
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#5540039 Posted on: 04/23/2018 01:43 PM
I wonder if Windows 10 HDR still looks washed out on such a monitor.
I wonder if Windows 10 HDR still looks washed out on such a monitor.
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#5540041 Posted on: 04/23/2018 01:45 PM
You are doing the monitor a disservice here guys. 720nit for the entire screen lit in white - 100% coverage!?!?! That is retina searing star collapsing brightness. 1000nit is only possible on 2% windows on all but the most highly priced 2018 Samsung QLED screens. A correctly calibrated Q8F puts out 770nits.
This monitor is an absolute godsend.
You are doing the monitor a disservice here guys. 720nit for the entire screen lit in white - 100% coverage!?!?! That is retina searing star collapsing brightness. 1000nit is only possible on 2% windows on all but the most highly priced 2018 Samsung QLED screens. A correctly calibrated Q8F puts out 770nits.
This monitor is an absolute godsend.
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#5540052 Posted on: 04/23/2018 02:23 PM
If it ain’t 4K @ 120hz or above in 2018, it needs to be taken off the market imo.
If it ain’t 4K @ 120hz or above in 2018, it needs to be taken off the market imo.
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#5540064 Posted on: 04/23/2018 02:47 PM
From the article:
"According to MMD, which has a license to use the Philips brand name on monitors, the monitor is mainly intended for console gamers."
Xbox now supports 120Hz + freesync though. So monitors for console gamers should support that.
Not all display buyers have same priorities. I'd go for this over a smaller, lower res higher hz display. Fast paced competitive gaming not everyones top prerogative.
Nah, that's just a myth. High refresh rates are a huge improvement for everything, not just for fast-paced competitive games. Latency is one thing, and competitive games are the most sensitive to it. Image clarity however affects every game. After the death of CRTs, we had blurry motion for a long time due to how LCDs work (60FPS on a 60Hz CRT has better motion quality than even 1000FPS on a 1000Hz LCD, for example, if such thing existed.)
60Hz gaming is really not good for any game. Just because many people have gotten used to it, and many others having never known any better, does not make it good. 60Hz for a gaming monitor should be a big NO.
From the article:
"According to MMD, which has a license to use the Philips brand name on monitors, the monitor is mainly intended for console gamers."
Xbox now supports 120Hz + freesync though. So monitors for console gamers should support that.
Not all display buyers have same priorities. I'd go for this over a smaller, lower res higher hz display. Fast paced competitive gaming not everyones top prerogative.
Nah, that's just a myth. High refresh rates are a huge improvement for everything, not just for fast-paced competitive games. Latency is one thing, and competitive games are the most sensitive to it. Image clarity however affects every game. After the death of CRTs, we had blurry motion for a long time due to how LCDs work (60FPS on a 60Hz CRT has better motion quality than even 1000FPS on a 1000Hz LCD, for example, if such thing existed.)
60Hz gaming is really not good for any game. Just because many people have gotten used to it, and many others having never known any better, does not make it good. 60Hz for a gaming monitor should be a big NO.
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#5540202 Posted on: 04/23/2018 09:24 PM
Xbox now supports 120Hz + freesync though. So monitors for console gamers should support that.
Yes....because xbox games totally run at 120fps.....
There's no reason to have 120hz AND freesync enabled monitors/TVs for consoles, since that obviously will never get used, will more then likely be stuck at 30hz, and hopefully, 60hz.
Xbox now supports 120Hz + freesync though. So monitors for console gamers should support that.
Yes....because xbox games totally run at 120fps.....
There's no reason to have 120hz AND freesync enabled monitors/TVs for consoles, since that obviously will never get used, will more then likely be stuck at 30hz, and hopefully, 60hz.
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#5540246 Posted on: 04/23/2018 11:55 PM
Yeah for sure, there are so many GPUs able to maintain 120 fps at 4K. LOL
If it ain’t 4K @ 120hz or above in 2018, it needs to be taken off the market imo.
Yeah for sure, there are so many GPUs able to maintain 120 fps at 4K. LOL
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#5540272 Posted on: 04/24/2018 03:19 AM
Yes....because xbox games totally run at 120fps.....
There's no reason to have 120hz AND freesync enabled monitors/TVs for consoles, since that obviously will never get used, will more then likely be stuck at 30hz, and hopefully, 60hz.
Well, it depends on the game. The world doesn't only consist of so-called "AAA" titles. But even then, freesync work much better on 120Hz even for 30FPS and 60FPS games.
120Hz LCD panels have been around for quite a while now. They can't be considered "premium" anymore. Frankly, they should be standard.
Anyway, since this is a 4K monitor, I'm probably overreacting. For 120Hz operation, you'd need to drive the monitor at 1080p or 1440p (xbox added support for 1440p too), but then you'd be upscaling anyway. Better get a 1440p monitor for high-refresh freesync on the xbox.
Yes....because xbox games totally run at 120fps.....
There's no reason to have 120hz AND freesync enabled monitors/TVs for consoles, since that obviously will never get used, will more then likely be stuck at 30hz, and hopefully, 60hz.
Well, it depends on the game. The world doesn't only consist of so-called "AAA" titles. But even then, freesync work much better on 120Hz even for 30FPS and 60FPS games.
120Hz LCD panels have been around for quite a while now. They can't be considered "premium" anymore. Frankly, they should be standard.
Anyway, since this is a 4K monitor, I'm probably overreacting. For 120Hz operation, you'd need to drive the monitor at 1080p or 1440p (xbox added support for 1440p too), but then you'd be upscaling anyway. Better get a 1440p monitor for high-refresh freesync on the xbox.
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Yeah, faking specs like this is starting to REALLY annoy me.
I used to go full nerd reading reviews as I was loving finding the best tech, no matter the type, now I feel I have to get into most serious items nitty gritty I buy so I dn't get limbered with crippled tech.
...makes me start to enjoy reading about such things much less and even feels like a chore at times.
Projectors shocked me more than most with so many even from recognised brands claiming 4k resolution natively on their own specs pages AND charging 4k prices when they are just using 1080p pixel shifted to simulate 4k or FauxK as some as calling it.
I would have thought regulatory bodies like UK's FTC would have stomped on companies using such flagrant lies to sell products by now !?!