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In anticipation of upcoming Pascal products in the coming month or two, at least that's what hwbattle is reporting this morning. As we get closer to the actual launch more and more tiny little details surface, combined bringing a bigger picture.
Can you smell it in the air ? :sniff::sniff: - yeah that's the smell of 16nm GPUs coming closer and closer.
It looks like that Nvidia will indeed name the upcoming GTX series the GeForce GXT 1070, 1080 and as it seems now perhaps even a 1080 Ti. The GPU naming now surfaced as well. Logic however would assume a Ti release later in the year opposed to everything being released at once in the summer.
- Equivalent to GTX 980 Ti will use a GP 104-400 GPU
- Equivalent to GTX 980 will use a GP 104-200 GPU
- Equivalent to GTX 970 will use a GP 104-150 GPU
As you can see that still leaves open GP100 (big pascal) for later in the year with likely a Titan based naming, ...
| Maxwell | Pascal | Board | Date | |
| NVIDIA Geforce GTX 980Ti | >> | GP 104-400 | Reference -> AIB | early June |
| NVIDIA Geforce GTX 980 | >> | GP 104-200 | Reference -> AIB | early June |
| NVIDIA Geforce GTX 970 | >> | GP 104-150 | AIB design | mid June |
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#5257338 Posted on: 04/13/2016 09:04 AM
If they already halt production, does it mean Pascal will perform way better than current arch that it won't make sense to have those anymore or its regular routine?
If they already halt production, does it mean Pascal will perform way better than current arch that it won't make sense to have those anymore or its regular routine?
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#5257343 Posted on: 04/13/2016 09:22 AM
Somehow I'm not sure the Ti will be based on the GP104. Because it would make the '80' card a cut down chip... does that work with production costs?
Just as a guess, the GP100 ('Titan') has 3840 shader processors, I guess the GP104-400 (biggest one, 'x80 Ti') will have something close to ~3000 shaders. GP104-200 ('x80') will be cut down to ~2500 shaders then? But does it make much sense to have the 'x80' as a cut down chip? It would mean that even the GP104-150 ('x70') would be a full GP104 chip in production, then laster cut? Wouldn't that mean that it unessecarily increased the 'x80's / 'x70's chip production cost?
I thought the 980Ti would only make sense because it was a cut down TitanX, making some use of faulty chips they can't put onto the top tier gaming cards / low rank professional cards.
Or am I seeing it all wrong, or doesn't it make much difference in production costs?
Somehow I'm not sure the Ti will be based on the GP104. Because it would make the '80' card a cut down chip... does that work with production costs?
Just as a guess, the GP100 ('Titan') has 3840 shader processors, I guess the GP104-400 (biggest one, 'x80 Ti') will have something close to ~3000 shaders. GP104-200 ('x80') will be cut down to ~2500 shaders then? But does it make much sense to have the 'x80' as a cut down chip? It would mean that even the GP104-150 ('x70') would be a full GP104 chip in production, then laster cut? Wouldn't that mean that it unessecarily increased the 'x80's / 'x70's chip production cost?
I thought the 980Ti would only make sense because it was a cut down TitanX, making some use of faulty chips they can't put onto the top tier gaming cards / low rank professional cards.
Or am I seeing it all wrong, or doesn't it make much difference in production costs?
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#5257347 Posted on: 04/13/2016 09:28 AM
I seems the time for having a Ti which was based on a Titan with a few "compromises" comes to an end. I hope I'm wrong.
I would have love a 1080Ti based on Titan again with a few things cut down and 12GB HBM2. Wishful thinking I guess.
We will know soon if the performance is there and it justifies their decision. I would have like some GP100.
Btw, this is all based or speculations/rumors so far obviously.
This. Also we can assume if its based on GP104 then no HBM2 for the Ti.
I seems the time for having a Ti which was based on a Titan with a few "compromises" comes to an end. I hope I'm wrong.
I would have love a 1080Ti based on Titan again with a few things cut down and 12GB HBM2. Wishful thinking I guess.
We will know soon if the performance is there and it justifies their decision. I would have like some GP100.
Btw, this is all based or speculations/rumors so far obviously.
...I thought the 980Ti would only make sense because it was a cut down TitanX, making some use of faulty chips they can't put onto the top tier gaming cards / low rank professional cards....
This. Also we can assume if its based on GP104 then no HBM2 for the Ti.
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#5257349 Posted on: 04/13/2016 09:34 AM
Equivalent to GTX 980 Ti will use a GP 104-400 GPU should be 1080
Equivalent to GTX 980 will use a GP 104-200 GPU should be 1070
Equivalent to GTX 970 will use a GP 104-150 GPU should be 1060
GP 104 won't be using HBM2
GP 100 probably 6 to 12 month away yet, with plenty of HBM2 ready for production runs.
GP 100 is probably the Ti and Titan naming range.
GP 100 is 610mm so yield rates on brand new process easy talking 6 month minimum from now before they can get yields to an acceptable production rate.
Equivalent to GTX 980 Ti will use a GP 104-400 GPU should be 1080
Equivalent to GTX 980 will use a GP 104-200 GPU should be 1070
Equivalent to GTX 970 will use a GP 104-150 GPU should be 1060
GP 104 won't be using HBM2
GP 100 probably 6 to 12 month away yet, with plenty of HBM2 ready for production runs.
GP 100 is probably the Ti and Titan naming range.
GP 100 is 610mm so yield rates on brand new process easy talking 6 month minimum from now before they can get yields to an acceptable production rate.
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I can't believe we are finally seeing the last days of 28nm GPUs! Hurray!
(I am not saying they are bad, not at all, but we have been stuck with 28nm for too long!)