New Intel Roadmap leaks: 10 core Comet lake in 2020, Rocket Lake on 2021, both at 14nm

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 04/25/2019 06:46 AM | source: tweakers.net | 63 comment(s)

Two roadmaps from Intel have leaked, and they show some interesting information. First up is are Comet lake based processors with up-to ten cores. Intel would be releasing these in 2020 and they are fabbed on a 14nm process.

The more interesting news is that in 2021 Rocket lake would make an introduction, and that's the first time that that name surfaces. It's also still listed as 14nm and shares the same amount of cores as Comet lake, indicating an improved or updated 14nm fabrication procedure.

The roadmaps that derived from a Dell presentation share info on both mobile and desktop processors. It is not clear how old the roadmaps themselves are. If correct, there are no 10nm desktop processors on the Intel roadmap for the next two years

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user1
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#5663229 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:03 AM

guess those rumors about intel completely abandoning their 10nm node might be true afterall.

not looking too good

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#5663233 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:18 AM

There will be more "+" in Intel 14nm CPUs than in English chat whenever someone says "Русские + в чат".

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#5663235 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:23 AM

So 10nm is kaput for real :eek:

and for many years to come nothing but 14+nm refresh of a refresh of a refresh of a refresh ... ( ad infinitum 14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ :p )

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#5663240 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:32 AM

My guess is that in maximum one year time, AMD will be the new CPU market leader.

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#5663245 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:44 AM

Seems like indeed they have scrapped the 10nm. I bet the focus will be on 7nm UV for them down the road.

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#5663251 Posted on: 04/25/2019 07:58 AM

well that sux but intel still has an big advantage in games (fps/tdp) even with zen 2

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#5663254 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:03 AM

well that sux but intel still has an big advantage in games (fps/tdp) even with zen 2

Let's not assume something we don't know yet. If you got Zen 2 processor, please give us some leaks!

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#5663256 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:09 AM

Brian Krzanich head fell probably because of this. Such a terrible mismanagement on a company that has almost unlimited founding, to get stuck for so long on the same 14 nm process. Intel deserves what's coming for keeping us stuck for a decade on 4 cores with such limited innovation. Of course this is mostly AMD's fault with their bulldozer or whatnot crappy architectures they had that couldn't even touch entry level Intel cpus. But still, Intel should have gone further and improve, just like Nvidia does, even when competition is lacking.

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#5663258 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:12 AM

My guess is that in maximum one year time, AMD will be the new CPU market leader.

Did you guess that Vega was the one gpu to rule them all too?

Time will tell...

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#5663262 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:21 AM

earlier this year they stated they want to get ice lake out q3 2019 with 10nm.

is this dead now? Or will they go with cheaper 14nm chips parallel to ice lake?

if the road map is real, 10nm is dead, the products that would benefit from 10nm the most would be mobile, and you see a couple 10nm parts listed on the mobile roadmap, but they are only small chips. <6cores, that would imply yields are very still poor.
if icelake desktop is not ready in 2020, there is virtually no reason to mass produce 10nm for desktop, since intel's 7nm euv should already be in early risk production by h2 2020, and amd will probably have retail 7nm euv chips in 2021

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#5663269 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:42 AM

This is a enterprise roadmap, those guys are always behind on adopting new architectures for Desktop, so don't take it to mean anything else then it is.

The second part has 10nm Ice Lake mobile parts launching in Q2'19, so thats not too bad.

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#5663272 Posted on: 04/25/2019 08:52 AM

How can people say Intel 10nm is scrapped/ dead when the maps shows some 10nm parts for lowerd TDP cpu's and also graphics? Better terminology would be repositioned.

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#5663275 Posted on: 04/25/2019 09:14 AM

How can people say Intel 10nm is scrapped/ dead when the maps shows some 10nm parts for lowerd TDP cpu's and also graphics? Better terminology would be repositioned.

You can put things in nicer boxes, but it does not what is in the box, You can say 10nm is "already here", since intel has a token 10nm cannonlake part.

"repositioned " sounds like what intel will tell it's shareholders to make it sound better.

When potentially >80% of the parts have been cancelled, that is _dead_

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#5663279 Posted on: 04/25/2019 09:18 AM

So 10nm is kaput for real :eek:

Yes Intel kaput

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#5663284 Posted on: 04/25/2019 09:32 AM

being on 14nm, 10 or 7 nm never mattered to anyone. Is a new nerd trend and is related to computer builder and tweaker. And we are not the market share. A cpu with a stock cooler used as stocks speed performs as ot should in 95% of computers out there. And this is the market. we are an exception looking for overclocks and tweaks.

Intel will stay strong for long yet, with or without 7nm and i was a intel boy too and now switched to amd myself.

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