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New AMD Threadripper chipsets pop up in USB-IF database - No more X599 ?
It seems that AMD is preparing Threadripper based on ZEN2 aka Series 3000. Three model names have surfaced named TRX40, WRX80 and TRX80. And that indicates that AMD is going to make some segmentation towards their offerings.
Threadripper 3000 remains to be massively interesting, but with up to 16 cores on Ryzen 3950X, who is actually going to go for Threadripper. Well, that would be the folks on a workstation, developers, prosumers and render farms. USB.org posted AMD 2019 Premium chipsets and there has been a recent update:
Model Number: Superset, X570, TRX40, WRX80, TRX80.
TRX 40 and TRX80 might be more consumer and workstation oriented with perhaps some differentiation on memory channels (4-channels /8-channels). The massive mega cores (hey 64c/128t is possible) in all likelihood is intended for the WRX80, which would be a kind of Epyc.
Forum based site ChipHell, has a user with a name Zoo who leaked a statement that Threadripper will have two product lines. One of them will launch this year and the next professional line will come next year. It is unclear yet the core count difference between mainstream and workstation Ryzen 3000 processors. Together with the 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper processors the platform obviously will provide support for PCI Express 4.0 motherboards for the HEDT segment. Time will tell, but we do not expect Threadripper 3000 for consumers to be released anytime soon.
New AMD Ryzen Threadripper shows off: hugely faster than the old 32-core - 08/15/2019 07:34 AM
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ASRock website reveals new AMD Athlon Procs and APUs - 06/25/2019 07:19 AM
ASRock once again made a mistake on its website and posted processor names of new unannounced AMD Athlon and APUs. AMD had already announced the Ryzen 3 3200G and the Ryzen 5 3400G. More in inbound. ...
Announcing the new AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo - 06/04/2019 07:08 AM
As part of new Mac Pro that is, 32 GB HBM2, 14 TFLOPs (& Vega II Duo with x2 of everything on the same board. AMD today announced the Radeon Pro Vega II and Pro Vega II Duo graphics cards, for th...
New AMD Radeon Pro Software for Enterprise - 05/10/2019 07:33 AM
AMD is releasing the newest version of its enterprise driver, the AMD Radeon Pro Software for Enterprise 19.Q2, enabling users to take better advantage of remote workstations – a practice wh...
ASRock seems to support new AMD Ryzen 3000 chips for its A320 motherboards - 04/30/2019 05:33 PM
If you just had a peek at the ASUS Ryzen 3000 compatibility list you will have noticed that A320 motherboards are not updated for compatibility. ASRock however also updated their support pages and it...
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#5705492 Posted on: 08/29/2019 01:18 PM
Hope until then Microsoft developers will tweak the Windows scheduler to properly make use of those cores.
For those who don't know about it, here it is.
Hope until then Microsoft developers will tweak the Windows scheduler to properly make use of those cores.
For those who don't know about it, here it is.
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#5705516 Posted on: 08/29/2019 02:09 PM
Hope until then Microsoft developers will tweak the Windows scheduler to properly make use of those cores.
For those who don't know about it, here it is.
Well, if the Threadripper 3000 series ends up being based on chiplets, the Windows scheduler (although still incompetent) isn't going to result in such drastically terrible results without being modified. The chiplet design is substantially more tolerant of schedulers that like to swap tasks between different cores (which is the barebone reason why the 2990WX performed so poorly). MS still needs to fix this behavior, but, at least the performance shouldn't be so bad that someone like Wendel needs to spend so much time investigating a solution.
Anyway, as a BOINC user, I sure am going to be excited when all those 2990WXs sell for dirt cheap because of how tremendously obsolete they'll become, even though they're actually super capable CPUs under the right conditions.
Hope until then Microsoft developers will tweak the Windows scheduler to properly make use of those cores.
For those who don't know about it, here it is.
Well, if the Threadripper 3000 series ends up being based on chiplets, the Windows scheduler (although still incompetent) isn't going to result in such drastically terrible results without being modified. The chiplet design is substantially more tolerant of schedulers that like to swap tasks between different cores (which is the barebone reason why the 2990WX performed so poorly). MS still needs to fix this behavior, but, at least the performance shouldn't be so bad that someone like Wendel needs to spend so much time investigating a solution.
Anyway, as a BOINC user, I sure am going to be excited when all those 2990WXs sell for dirt cheap because of how tremendously obsolete they'll become, even though they're actually super capable CPUs under the right conditions.
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#5705544 Posted on: 08/29/2019 02:50 PM
Can someone imagine storage made entirely of 8GB HBM chips backed by battery connected via PCIe 4.0 x32?
Can someone imagine storage made entirely of 8GB HBM chips backed by battery connected via PCIe 4.0 x32?
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#5705550 Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:00 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistive-random-access-memory
It's not HBM but being non-volatile on a system with 4-8 memory controllers (and in turn, direct CPU access, rather than communication over PCIe), I think I'd rather opt for that.
I dream of a day where ReRAM becomes affordable, and obsoletes the need of both disk storage and RAM as we know it. There would be no such thing as loading; the CPU just reads/writes directly from the source as needed, and only whatever is needed. No more lost data from power outages. No need for suspend/hibernate. No point in caching/buffering.
Can someone imagine storage made entirely of 8GB HBM chips backed by battery connected via PCIe 4.0 x32?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistive-random-access-memory
It's not HBM but being non-volatile on a system with 4-8 memory controllers (and in turn, direct CPU access, rather than communication over PCIe), I think I'd rather opt for that.
I dream of a day where ReRAM becomes affordable, and obsoletes the need of both disk storage and RAM as we know it. There would be no such thing as loading; the CPU just reads/writes directly from the source as needed, and only whatever is needed. No more lost data from power outages. No need for suspend/hibernate. No point in caching/buffering.
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#5705556 Posted on: 08/29/2019 03:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistive-random-access-memory
It's not HBM but being non-volatile on a system with 4-8 memory controllers (and in turn, direct CPU access, rather than communication over PCIe), I think I'd rather opt for that.
I dream of a day where ReRAM becomes affordable, and obsoletes the need of both disk storage and RAM as we know it. There would be no such thing as loading; the CPU just reads/writes directly from the source as needed, and only whatever is needed. No more lost data from power outages. No need for suspend/hibernate. No point in caching/buffering.
Yes. But it has that issue called system reliability in general. On finely tuned linux workstation, it would be great. With buggy windows and need to restart with updates...
Half of benefits lost.
I think we sooner get PCIe 5.0 and M.2 NVMe drives reading 10GB/s+.
What I meant was sheer amount of bandwidth available via given interface. And HBM could even be downclocked for "power efficiency" as it would be still overkill. And compete with RAM itself in terms of bandwidth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistive-random-access-memory
It's not HBM but being non-volatile on a system with 4-8 memory controllers (and in turn, direct CPU access, rather than communication over PCIe), I think I'd rather opt for that.
I dream of a day where ReRAM becomes affordable, and obsoletes the need of both disk storage and RAM as we know it. There would be no such thing as loading; the CPU just reads/writes directly from the source as needed, and only whatever is needed. No more lost data from power outages. No need for suspend/hibernate. No point in caching/buffering.
Yes. But it has that issue called system reliability in general. On finely tuned linux workstation, it would be great. With buggy windows and need to restart with updates...
Half of benefits lost.
I think we sooner get PCIe 5.0 and M.2 NVMe drives reading 10GB/s+.
What I meant was sheer amount of bandwidth available via given interface. And HBM could even be downclocked for "power efficiency" as it would be still overkill. And compete with RAM itself in terms of bandwidth.
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#5705611 Posted on: 08/29/2019 05:01 PM
What I want for storage:
Lower latency > higher bandwidt
Ps, I running a Intel Optane 900p with my Ryzen 3900x
What I want for storage:
Lower latency > higher bandwidt
Ps, I running a Intel Optane 900p with my Ryzen 3900x
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#5705654 Posted on: 08/29/2019 06:36 PM
I love how AMD still keeping same sockets for these new threadripper line, im excited to upgrade!
I love how AMD still keeping same sockets for these new threadripper line, im excited to upgrade!
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#5705675 Posted on: 08/29/2019 07:56 PM
I wonder if we'll see the fabled X590 ?
I could imagine a really bad TR I/O chip being reused as an AM4 chipset just for the extra PCIe lanes.
TDP might be a problem tho. Fan almost guaranteed.
I wonder if we'll see the fabled X590 ?
I could imagine a really bad TR I/O chip being reused as an AM4 chipset just for the extra PCIe lanes.
TDP might be a problem tho. Fan almost guaranteed.
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#5705678 Posted on: 08/29/2019 08:03 PM
the x570 IS the x590.
the x570 IS the x590.
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#5705680 Posted on: 08/29/2019 08:05 PM
You sure ?
Awww...
the x570 IS the x590.
You sure ?
Awww...
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#5706334 Posted on: 08/31/2019 06:17 PM
You sure ?
Awww...
No it isnt same thing, latest rumors came from videocardz and they said confirmed by asus employee
You sure ?
Awww...
No it isnt same thing, latest rumors came from videocardz and they said confirmed by asus employee
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#5706402 Posted on: 08/31/2019 10:31 PM
Keep believing those false rumours.
Keep believing those false rumours.
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#5706764 Posted on: 09/02/2019 02:40 AM
https://twitter.com/bryanheemskerk/status/1138467713393803264?lang=hr lool
https://twitter.com/bryanheemskerk/status/1138467713393803264?lang=hr lool
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TRX40@4 channel memory upto 32 cores
TRX80@8 channel memory upto 64 cores
WRX80@8 channel memory upto 64 cores as this is a workstation stuff.
I could bet on these
All this means TR3 platform will be a real killer