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Forza 7 PC Graphics Performance Benchmarks
Earlier last week when the Forza 7 demo was released I was looking into a graphics performance review. Unfortunately the game is limited towards 30 or 60 FPS caps and a forced VSYNC setting, there is a workaround though.
Our German colleagues from computerbase.de have found a workaround, the full version can be unlocked in the cap, however as soon as you divert from the native resolution of your monitor, the sync kicks back in. Basically what the guys did was use an Ultra HD monitor, got rid of the cap and VSYNC, however in order to not restrict themselves, they re- sampled with the in-game up/down sampling options to match Full HD and Ultra HD resolutions (emulating them). The methodology they used certainly doesn’t win the equivalent of a beauty contest, but for some quick raw numbers it does get the job done towards a reasonable enough proximity. I had a peek, thus far I remain to be unable to break free from the 60 FPS cap myself.
They tested the game at Ultra quality settings using Crimson ReLive 17.9.3 and GeForce 385.69 drivers on a Core i7-6850K system with the cores clocked at 4.3 , and what shows itself is that AMD is doing peculiarly well in Forza 7 for both performance and frametime. Check out the results, courtesy of computerbase.de
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#5476999 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:38 PM
yeah 9fps on 4k for a fury x seems really buggy
yeah 9fps on 4k for a fury x seems really buggy
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#5477000 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:40 PM
That is likely running out of VRAM.
The spread of performance looks similar to the weird spread that FH3 had prior to core0 fix.
yeah 9fps on 4k for a fury x seems really buggy
That is likely running out of VRAM.
The spread of performance looks similar to the weird spread that FH3 had prior to core0 fix.
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#5477005 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:46 PM
Really? It takes 4k resolution for the GTX1080Ti to beat the Vega 64? and at 1080p the RX580 has better minimum fps than a GTX1080Ti? This is some BS.
Really? It takes 4k resolution for the GTX1080Ti to beat the Vega 64? and at 1080p the RX580 has better minimum fps than a GTX1080Ti? This is some BS.
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#5477006 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:48 PM
I mean the Ti is only running 25% faster than a 1070 in FHD, there is clearly some kind of CPU issue. Vega is performing nicely though compared to the rest of AMD's stack, so it seems like the game is well optimized for it.
The article states there is a CPU comparison benchmark but I don't see it?
I mean the Ti is only running 25% faster than a 1070 in FHD, there is clearly some kind of CPU issue. Vega is performing nicely though compared to the rest of AMD's stack, so it seems like the game is well optimized for it.
The article states there is a CPU comparison benchmark but I don't see it?
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#5477012 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:53 PM
I mean the Ti is only running 25% faster than a 1070 in FHD, there is clearly some kind of CPU issue. Vega is performing nicely though compared to the rest of AMD's stack, so it seems like the game is well optimized for it.
The article states there is a CPU comparison benchmark but I don't see it?
Knowing what I know about Quantum Break, I've seen enough.
I mean the Ti is only running 25% faster than a 1070 in FHD, there is clearly some kind of CPU issue. Vega is performing nicely though compared to the rest of AMD's stack, so it seems like the game is well optimized for it.
The article states there is a CPU comparison benchmark but I don't see it?
Knowing what I know about Quantum Break, I've seen enough.
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#5477015 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:56 PM
pr stated that it does not
If the game still has the core0 bug I would wait till that is cleared up before crowning a king. Though this is a bright spot for AMD but to be expected with the lead platform being AMD based.
pr stated that it does not
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#5477016 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:56 PM
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#5477018 Posted on: 09/29/2017 04:58 PM
not bs this..
Software vs. hardware schedulers in DX12. AMD can actually send commands to the GPU hardware schedulers on any thread in DX12 where they were limited to only the main driver thread in DX11. Starting to see the benefits of the hardware schedulers AMD uses.
here you go
Really? It takes 4k resolution for the GTX1080Ti to beat the Vega 64? and at 1080p the RX580 has better minimum fps than a GTX1080Ti? This is some BS.
not bs this..
Software vs. hardware schedulers in DX12. AMD can actually send commands to the GPU hardware schedulers on any thread in DX12 where they were limited to only the main driver thread in DX11. Starting to see the benefits of the hardware schedulers AMD uses.
here you go
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#5477036 Posted on: 09/29/2017 06:03 PM
not bs this..
Software vs. hardware schedulers in DX12. AMD can actually send commands to the GPU hardware schedulers on any thread in DX12 where they were limited to only the main driver thread in DX11. Starting to see the benefits of the hardware schedulers AMD uses.
here you go
FM7 is the only DX12 game to exhibit these kind of performance numbers for the GTX1080Ti vs every other AMD card including Vega. Not even Hitman, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided or AoTS does what this game is doing. Not even Doom using Vulkan. Now suddenly with FM7 we see this huge discrepancy in performance, especially at 1080p and 1440p? Come on, surely even you can see something isn't right.
not bs this..
Software vs. hardware schedulers in DX12. AMD can actually send commands to the GPU hardware schedulers on any thread in DX12 where they were limited to only the main driver thread in DX11. Starting to see the benefits of the hardware schedulers AMD uses.
here you go
FM7 is the only DX12 game to exhibit these kind of performance numbers for the GTX1080Ti vs every other AMD card including Vega. Not even Hitman, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided or AoTS does what this game is doing. Not even Doom using Vulkan. Now suddenly with FM7 we see this huge discrepancy in performance, especially at 1080p and 1440p? Come on, surely even you can see something isn't right.
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#5477039 Posted on: 09/29/2017 06:10 PM
Just testing the game out. Core0 bug is still there. FPS locked at 60. I'm calling all kind of BS on this "article".
pr stated that it does not
Just testing the game out. Core0 bug is still there. FPS locked at 60. I'm calling all kind of BS on this "article".
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#5477073 Posted on: 09/29/2017 07:26 PM
Had it occurred to you that maybe you have vsync on? Or perhaps you don't actually have access to the latest build? Unless whoever formed the charts just completely outright lied about them, clearly, they have a version of the game that goes beyond 60FPS. Even at 4K, a 1070 will go beyond 60FPS. That sounds pretty damn good to me. Not sure what you're getting all huffy about. Does it really hurt your pride that much that a Vega outperforms a 1080Ti? To my recollection, there are currently tests available where that can happen; it's not un-heard of. It's just a bit unusual in gaming. Don't forget, the Fury X did abysmally in 4K
Just testing the game out. Core0 bug is still there. FPS locked at 60. I'm calling all kind of BS on this "article".
Had it occurred to you that maybe you have vsync on? Or perhaps you don't actually have access to the latest build? Unless whoever formed the charts just completely outright lied about them, clearly, they have a version of the game that goes beyond 60FPS. Even at 4K, a 1070 will go beyond 60FPS. That sounds pretty damn good to me. Not sure what you're getting all huffy about. Does it really hurt your pride that much that a Vega outperforms a 1080Ti? To my recollection, there are currently tests available where that can happen; it's not un-heard of. It's just a bit unusual in gaming. Don't forget, the Fury X did abysmally in 4K
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#5477076 Posted on: 09/29/2017 07:32 PM
Definitely something happening ... looks like either a game bug or drivers not as Game Ready as AMD's were for Vega.
Definitely something happening ... looks like either a game bug or drivers not as Game Ready as AMD's were for Vega.
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#5477077 Posted on: 09/29/2017 07:36 PM
Had it occurred to you that maybe you have vsync on? Or perhaps you don't actually have access to the latest build? Unless whoever formed the charts just completely outright lied about them, clearly, they have a version of the game that goes beyond 60FPS. Even at 4K, a 1070 will go beyond 60FPS. That sounds pretty damn good to me. Not sure what you're getting all huffy about. Does it really hurt your pride that much that a Vega outperforms a 1080Ti? To my recollection, there are currently tests available where that can happen; it's not un-heard of. It's just a bit unusual in gaming. Don't forget, the Fury X did abysmally in 4K
No v-sync Frame rates are capped in engine and not unlocked Turn 10 stated so on their forum.
Or they don't have a special version and are lying. It's not unheard of.
I don't care if Vega out performs 1080ti the point is that 1080ti only being 20% faster than 1070 is a problem.
Last Updated 9/28
- This should be resolved now. Please try redeeming your Add-On bundle cards for FM7 Ultimate Edition disc version.
We are aware of an issue where players are unable to redeem the Ultimate Edition Add-On bundle cards found in retail disc versions of Forza Motorsport 7 Ultimate Edition. We have identified the cause of this issue and expect it to be resolved today. Players who encounter this issue will be able to use their codes once the issue has been resolved.
PC SPECIFIC KNOWN ISSUES
• All players on a given PC will be able to play the game but only players who purchased the DLC will be able to access the DLC.
• Player's mouse pointer will stay in the forefront while actively racing
• Race track and audio features may not load properly in a race if the player has tabbed out of the game in the pre-race lobby until the race starts.
• Random Gamertags may appear in the host's lobby when backing out of Public or Private multiplayer sessions and not allow them to join a new hopper lobby.
• Some players may be unable to create or join voice chat sessions. We suggest restarting your computer and trying again.
• We are aware that the key may be difficult to see in various menus.
• Game may become unresponsive when a player is browsing Driver Info in a large public multiplayer lobby during the transition to the next track.
• Players’ HDR settings may reset to max brightness and gamma upon relaunching the game.
• Players who exit Car Select during Launch Countdown without selecting a car will be left behind in the lobby with no car selected.
• Players who redeemed DLC on their Xbox One console may not see their DLC available when they play on PC. Players who experience this should make sure the DLC is downloaded to the PC they're playing on.
• When selecting a car, pressing the toggle option may not toggle the car stats.
• Driver Tier icon may not display properly on the Event Results or Leaderboard in the Post Race screen.
• Players will not receive credit bonus rewards for using VIP Forza Edition cars in Rivals events.
• Wheel rotation for navigating outside of racing may not be supported in menus like Livery Editor, Forzavista, Photo Mode, and the Decal Editor.
• Players may lose game audio if they unplug their headset and plug it back in while in the game.
• Currently, players cannot change video options during a race. We will be releasing an update in the future that will allow players to change video options mid-race.
• Benchmark mode may experience long load times or crashes after running the benchmark test.
• Players may experience the track not loading after using consecutive rewinds. If you experience this, please quit the race and start it again.
• Players may experience graphics not rendering properly when racing. If you experience this, we recommend turning down your in-game video settings.
• Changing the Camera Motion Effects will not apply after saving. The setting change should be applied to your second race but if it doesn’t, please quit the demo and launch it again.
• Players won't be able to use G-sync if they have the Nvidia 385.69 drivers installed. Players will want to install the 385.41 drivers to use G-sync.
• If players are experiencing hitching/stuttering, we suggest disabling Game Mode in Windows and close any overclocking, hardware monitoring, streaming, recording and any nonessential apps while we investigate this.
Had it occurred to you that maybe you have vsync on? Or perhaps you don't actually have access to the latest build? Unless whoever formed the charts just completely outright lied about them, clearly, they have a version of the game that goes beyond 60FPS. Even at 4K, a 1070 will go beyond 60FPS. That sounds pretty damn good to me. Not sure what you're getting all huffy about. Does it really hurt your pride that much that a Vega outperforms a 1080Ti? To my recollection, there are currently tests available where that can happen; it's not un-heard of. It's just a bit unusual in gaming. Don't forget, the Fury X did abysmally in 4K
No v-sync Frame rates are capped in engine and not unlocked Turn 10 stated so on their forum.
Or they don't have a special version and are lying. It's not unheard of.
I don't care if Vega out performs 1080ti the point is that 1080ti only being 20% faster than 1070 is a problem.
Last Updated 9/28
- This should be resolved now. Please try redeeming your Add-On bundle cards for FM7 Ultimate Edition disc version.
We are aware of an issue where players are unable to redeem the Ultimate Edition Add-On bundle cards found in retail disc versions of Forza Motorsport 7 Ultimate Edition. We have identified the cause of this issue and expect it to be resolved today. Players who encounter this issue will be able to use their codes once the issue has been resolved.
PC SPECIFIC KNOWN ISSUES
• All players on a given PC will be able to play the game but only players who purchased the DLC will be able to access the DLC.
• Player's mouse pointer will stay in the forefront while actively racing
• Race track and audio features may not load properly in a race if the player has tabbed out of the game in the pre-race lobby until the race starts.
• Random Gamertags may appear in the host's lobby when backing out of Public or Private multiplayer sessions and not allow them to join a new hopper lobby.
• Some players may be unable to create or join voice chat sessions. We suggest restarting your computer and trying again.
• We are aware that the key may be difficult to see in various menus.
• Game may become unresponsive when a player is browsing Driver Info in a large public multiplayer lobby during the transition to the next track.
• Players’ HDR settings may reset to max brightness and gamma upon relaunching the game.
• Players who exit Car Select during Launch Countdown without selecting a car will be left behind in the lobby with no car selected.
• Players who redeemed DLC on their Xbox One console may not see their DLC available when they play on PC. Players who experience this should make sure the DLC is downloaded to the PC they're playing on.
• When selecting a car, pressing the toggle option may not toggle the car stats.
• Driver Tier icon may not display properly on the Event Results or Leaderboard in the Post Race screen.
• Players will not receive credit bonus rewards for using VIP Forza Edition cars in Rivals events.
• Wheel rotation for navigating outside of racing may not be supported in menus like Livery Editor, Forzavista, Photo Mode, and the Decal Editor.
• Players may lose game audio if they unplug their headset and plug it back in while in the game.
• Unlocked framerate is currently not supported in the Forza Motorsport 7 but will be available with a future update.
• Currently, players cannot change video options during a race. We will be releasing an update in the future that will allow players to change video options mid-race.
• Benchmark mode may experience long load times or crashes after running the benchmark test.
• Players may experience the track not loading after using consecutive rewinds. If you experience this, please quit the race and start it again.
• Players may experience graphics not rendering properly when racing. If you experience this, we recommend turning down your in-game video settings.
• Changing the Camera Motion Effects will not apply after saving. The setting change should be applied to your second race but if it doesn’t, please quit the demo and launch it again.
• Players won't be able to use G-sync if they have the Nvidia 385.69 drivers installed. Players will want to install the 385.41 drivers to use G-sync.
• If players are experiencing hitching/stuttering, we suggest disabling Game Mode in Windows and close any overclocking, hardware monitoring, streaming, recording and any nonessential apps while we investigate this.
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#5477080 Posted on: 09/29/2017 07:47 PM
Have Nvidia for this game game ready drivers? My gtx 980 ti wont even start the game?
Have Nvidia for this game game ready drivers? My gtx 980 ti wont even start the game?
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Was not expecting this
If the game still has the core0 bug I would wait till that is cleared up before crowning a king. Though this is a bright spot for AMD but to be expected with the lead platform being AMD based.