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AMD Vega Frontier Edition Unboxed and Benchmark (updated)
With AMDs Vega Frontier Edition now available it was only a matter of time before a consumer would get his hands on it. User #define @ Disqus purchased one, took unboxing photos and ran a 3DMark Firestrike.
User #define is still working on some SPECViewperf and 3DMark results, both based on the gaming and non gaming profiles that this Vega card offers. His system is based on a stock clocked Core i7 4790K / ASUS Maximus VII Impact motherboard 16 GB (2x8) dual channel Corsair Vengeance Pro Black modules, running at 2133 MHz.
It seems that PC and the beta driver is responsible for the somewhat lackluster score, and the GPU frequency is all over the place he mentions. Firestrike scored 17313 points, however that is the generic P score. if you look at the graph then the actual graphics score is 22916 though, which is say 10% above the GeForce GTX 1080. A GeForce GTX 1080 Ti / Titan Xp (Pascal scores roughly 28K on that GPU score. I'll update this article once he has some more results, and setup the card better.
So over the night #define updated with Firestrike Extreme and Ultra scores. The Ultra test is significant as that pretty much roots our the processor and system memory in the score. The score for him (in the current state) is 5216 points. I charted that up and threw it into the mix with the Guru3D tests (based on a massive Core a7 5960X quad-channel setup). Remember that chart is indicative, nothing else.
I want to make note that the guy uses an early driver, Radeon Vega Frontier Edition 17.6 with base driver version 17.20.1035 and that is not the gaming optimized driver set.
AMD VEGA Die-shot Photo - 06/06/2017 07:19 AM
Well, GPU shot reallt. Check it out, I checked with AMD if this is a real photo and not a fakes one. It is the real thing though. The VEGA shot shows a thing or two, you can count the 8 blocks that go...
AMD Vega To get 20K Units Released at launch and new Zen+ chatter - 05/09/2017 08:48 AM
The ongoing rumors about Radeon RX Vega are just, on-going. In the latest news it is reported that there will be 20K Units for Vega available state some media. There might be news about Zen+ inbound a...
New AMD Vega Photos and New Logo - 02/22/2017 04:37 PM
Over at the AMD event they had several systems setup with an AMD Vega as well, not just that. There is a new logo is shared as well....
AMD Vega 10 GPU Name Accidentally Confirmed as Radeon RX 490 gets 8GB - 01/31/2017 10:41 AM
Well, it's not like it was exactly a secret but thanks Bethesda for confirming it. Bethesda has announced that it will release a new HD Texture Pack for the PC version of Fallout 4. In order to prep...
AMD VEGA10 Graphics Card Photos - 01/09/2017 01:11 PM
Over at CES AMD has been showing a thing or two gaming wise, the DOOM 4K demos for example. These all have been run on a VEGA10 graphics card, a photo now has surfaced....
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#5447199 Posted on: 06/28/2017 03:53 PM
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
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#5447209 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:06 PM
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
Why does it really matter?
The price of this is what, $1500?
Anyways, it's way over a 1080ti and we know the Ti is faster and it only costs $650.
Surely nobody will buy less for more(gaming wise)
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
Why does it really matter?
The price of this is what, $1500?
Anyways, it's way over a 1080ti and we know the Ti is faster and it only costs $650.
Surely nobody will buy less for more(gaming wise)
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#5447210 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:11 PM
Where's the Only Intruder guy now who had a lot to tell me on some other news post?
I didn't bother to reply to him in that thread. Well, here's proof of the performance.
All AMD is good for is providing you with a heater free of cost in colder countries.
Good luck in hoping to see a 50% performance gain with driver optimization alone.
Where's the Only Intruder guy now who had a lot to tell me on some other news post?
I didn't bother to reply to him in that thread. Well, here's proof of the performance.
All AMD is good for is providing you with a heater free of cost in colder countries.
Good luck in hoping to see a 50% performance gain with driver optimization alone.
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#5447211 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:11 PM
Why does it really matter?
The price of this is what, $1500?
Anyways, it's way over a 1080ti and we know the Ti is faster and it only costs $650.
Surely nobody will buy less for more(gaming wise)
The AC edition is $1000 the WC edition is $1500, they dropped the prices yesterday.
I guess it matters because the same hardware is being utilized in the RX variant (minus 8GB of HBM) as far as we know. So if this card has no legs with the gaming drivers, the RX variant will probably be similar.
Why does it really matter?
The price of this is what, $1500?
Anyways, it's way over a 1080ti and we know the Ti is faster and it only costs $650.
Surely nobody will buy less for more(gaming wise)
The AC edition is $1000 the WC edition is $1500, they dropped the prices yesterday.
I guess it matters because the same hardware is being utilized in the RX variant (minus 8GB of HBM) as far as we know. So if this card has no legs with the gaming drivers, the RX variant will probably be similar.
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#5447212 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:13 PM
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
And if they do not release a Vega in June, the wiseguys will shout "They still don't have any Vega cards but in July-August".
I don't know what AMD was thinking with this release. They wanted a card like a Titan, but I guess the release is rushed so the gaming performance is terrible with the current "gaming" drivers, so Raja basically says "not for gaming" but they release a gaming mode for it anyway..
They should have either waited for the drivers to mature before releasing the card, or waited to release the gaming driver only until it was ready.
AMD's community takes pride in the fact that AMD is more willing to interact with users. I really think they should take advantage of that and explain the situation, why the gaming performance is low, what they are going to do to fix it, timeline for the fixes, etc. I think they would received a way better response then not even sending review samples out and sending mixed messages about the target market for the card itself.
And if they do not release a Vega in June, the wiseguys will shout "They still don't have any Vega cards but in July-August".
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#5447216 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:17 PM
Seems infinitely better then releasing a card that underperforms, with an initial driver release of known issues that's a mile long. On top of not even providing hardware to reviewers and controlling the story.
And if they do not release a Vega in June, the wiseguys will shout "They still don't have any Vega cards but in July-August".
Seems infinitely better then releasing a card that underperforms, with an initial driver release of known issues that's a mile long. On top of not even providing hardware to reviewers and controlling the story.
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#5447218 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:25 PM
Where's the Only Intruder guy now who had a lot to tell me on some other news post?
I didn't bother to reply to him in that thread. Well, here's proof of the performance.
All AMD is good for is providing you with a heater free of cost in colder countries.
Good luck in hoping to see a 50% performance gain with driver optimization alone.
out of all of that, the bit that triggered me the most was the line "heater free of cost in colder countries"
if it throws out a lot of heat, it pulls a lot of power as well. so that point is wrong.
as for the rest of it, well, anyone who has been looking at historical data when it comes to AMD vs nVidia flagship releases would know that AMD never takes the performance crown anymore. So i don't know why people are so surprised by it.
Where's the Only Intruder guy now who had a lot to tell me on some other news post?
I didn't bother to reply to him in that thread. Well, here's proof of the performance.
All AMD is good for is providing you with a heater free of cost in colder countries.
Good luck in hoping to see a 50% performance gain with driver optimization alone.
out of all of that, the bit that triggered me the most was the line "heater free of cost in colder countries"
if it throws out a lot of heat, it pulls a lot of power as well. so that point is wrong.
as for the rest of it, well, anyone who has been looking at historical data when it comes to AMD vs nVidia flagship releases would know that AMD never takes the performance crown anymore. So i don't know why people are so surprised by it.
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#5447219 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:28 PM
Im pretty sure that Vega Frontier is targeted at machine learning workloads, so complaining about its gaming performance is kinda silly.
Im pretty sure that Vega Frontier is targeted at machine learning workloads, so complaining about its gaming performance is kinda silly.
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#5447221 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:36 PM
Should I laugh or should I cry ?
This is my result on a GTX1080 which was supposed to be slower than Vega:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10146244
Graphics Score - 24031
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WTF How can ur score so much high.My 1080 with i7 6700k(oc) score 5423.
this cant be that much of difference between i7 6700k and i7 6800k difference of 14000 score? can anyone explain it this legit?
Should I laugh or should I cry ?
This is my result on a GTX1080 which was supposed to be slower than Vega:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10146244
Graphics Score - 24031
)
WTF How can ur score so much high.My 1080 with i7 6700k(oc) score 5423.
this cant be that much of difference between i7 6700k and i7 6800k difference of 14000 score? can anyone explain it this legit?
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#5447222 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:37 PM
I could repeat the mantra that I'm actually certain is true, that the drivers aren't even close to ready, but then why even release them with a driver like that AMD? :S
I could repeat the mantra that I'm actually certain is true, that the drivers aren't even close to ready, but then why even release them with a driver like that AMD? :S
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#5447223 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:37 PM
Very disappointed in this news. Is AMD going to be able to sell the gaming focused card at $450?
WTF How can ur score so much high.My 1080 with i7 6700k(oc) score 5423.
this cant be that much of difference between i7 6700k and i7 6800k difference of 14000 score? can anyone explain it this legit?
His fire strike score looks normal. Post yours.
Very disappointed in this news. Is AMD going to be able to sell the gaming focused card at $450?
WTF How can ur score so much high.My 1080 with i7 6700k(oc) score 5423.
this cant be that much of difference between i7 6700k and i7 6800k difference of 14000 score? can anyone explain it this legit?
His fire strike score looks normal. Post yours.
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#5447224 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:40 PM
Should I laugh or should I cry ?
This is my result on a GTX1080 which was supposed to be slower than Vega:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10146244
Graphics Score - 24031
Yes, it is a bit overclocked... but still... dang, I have that card for a year, and 1080Ti's are scoring WAY, WAY higher (Up to ~30000 graphics score)
Becouse you look at gaming benchmarks with preview drivers when you are interested in a professional GPU like a Quadro or Tesla..
Should I laugh or should I cry ?
This is my result on a GTX1080 which was supposed to be slower than Vega:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10146244
Graphics Score - 24031
Yes, it is a bit overclocked... but still... dang, I have that card for a year, and 1080Ti's are scoring WAY, WAY higher (Up to ~30000 graphics score)
Becouse you look at gaming benchmarks with preview drivers when you are interested in a professional GPU like a Quadro or Tesla..
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#5447228 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:46 PM
To all above, card isn't for gaming. Full stop.
To all above, card isn't for gaming. Full stop.
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#5447229 Posted on: 06/28/2017 04:46 PM
That's a good point, but even if the point is 100% correct, it just highlights the current state of the AMD gaming driver for the card, and the idiotic decision to launch it with it.
Becouse you look at gaming benchmarks with preview drivers when you are interested in a professional GPU like a Quadro or Tesla..
That's a good point, but even if the point is 100% correct, it just highlights the current state of the AMD gaming driver for the card, and the idiotic decision to launch it with it.
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Should I laugh or should I cry ?
This is my result on a GTX1080 which was supposed to be slower than Vega:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10146244
Graphics Score - 24031
Yes, it is a bit overclocked... but still... dang, I have that card for a year, and 1080Ti's are scoring WAY, WAY higher (Up to ~30000 graphics score)