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AMD on the Ryze Bigtime with German Ryzen Sales
Big German etailer sells more AMD procs now than Intel ones. Over the weekend the story broke as some reports had been published. The news is interesting as for many years now AMD has been an underdog sales wise.
However Ryzen is doing well. The news comes from and ever since March 2017, when AMD launched Ryzen series, AMD processor sales have seen a from 28% (vs. 72% of Intel) towards now a proper 56% by the end of August 2017 of that sales pie. This of course is targeted at the DiY component market.
The most popular processor is the one I have been recommending for best value/performance, the Ryzen 5 1600 with its 6c/12t setup. Next in line is the Ryzen 7 1700, again very similar to my recommendation as that 8x/16t proc just needs a little tweaking to get to that4 GHz range. Intel wise the 7700K is the best seller. Check the graphs made by Reddit use Type-21 and Ingebor.
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#5469094 Posted on: 09/04/2017 08:50 AM
GPUs are doing well as well. They are sold out everywhere, vega and the RX series. On the contrary NVidia GPUs are everywhere to be found. Greater stock perhaps, and because of mining craze, but still that's great for AMD.
GPUs are doing well as well. They are sold out everywhere, vega and the RX series. On the contrary NVidia GPUs are everywhere to be found. Greater stock perhaps, and because of mining craze, but still that's great for AMD.
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#5469106 Posted on: 09/04/2017 09:33 AM
That's great news for AMD. I also don't see that change anytime soon either. People are tired of paying a premium for sub par proc. Now Intel is trying to rectify this by giving you more cores, but don't forget that you will pay more for that than the previous generation and you will once again change your motherboard again.... AMD will for at least another 2 years refine the whole Ryzen proc lineup and maybe even drop the die size who knows? How on earth did AMD let Intel on a loose like this over the years? I honestly can't even see how people can still consider going the Intel route unless you are a die hard fan of them and like getting raped in the bottom side... LOL!
That's great news for AMD. I also don't see that change anytime soon either. People are tired of paying a premium for sub par proc. Now Intel is trying to rectify this by giving you more cores, but don't forget that you will pay more for that than the previous generation and you will once again change your motherboard again.... AMD will for at least another 2 years refine the whole Ryzen proc lineup and maybe even drop the die size who knows? How on earth did AMD let Intel on a loose like this over the years? I honestly can't even see how people can still consider going the Intel route unless you are a die hard fan of them and like getting raped in the bottom side... LOL!
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#5469119 Posted on: 09/04/2017 10:20 AM
Great. Still with a x5650@4ghz (cpuz bench, same multi thread performance of a i7 7700k) but when it will pass away, the choice will be for an AMD solution. Hope the Ryzen effect will make AMD able to improve and push forward all the graphic sector. Up to now, in my opinion, gaming on pc with those prices is not interesting unless you are an enthusiast gamer.
Great. Still with a x5650@4ghz (cpuz bench, same multi thread performance of a i7 7700k) but when it will pass away, the choice will be for an AMD solution. Hope the Ryzen effect will make AMD able to improve and push forward all the graphic sector. Up to now, in my opinion, gaming on pc with those prices is not interesting unless you are an enthusiast gamer.
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#5469126 Posted on: 09/04/2017 10:48 AM
Being sold out everywhere isn't great for AMD because it means they can't produce enough merchandise and are losing profit. Sold out somewhere would be a healthy sign as it would indicate they are selling everything they manufacture but are also meeting the demand, more or less. Many a person will take a card from a competitor if an AMD card simply can't be bought because stores have nothing to sell.
That being said, I visited a computer store this past weekend and there actually were two Sapphire 580s sitting on the shelf. I wouldn't expect them to remain there for long.
GPUs are doing well as well. They are sold out everywhere, vega and the RX series. On the contrary NVidia GPUs are everywhere to be found. Greater stock perhaps, and because of mining craze, but still that's great for AMD.
Being sold out everywhere isn't great for AMD because it means they can't produce enough merchandise and are losing profit. Sold out somewhere would be a healthy sign as it would indicate they are selling everything they manufacture but are also meeting the demand, more or less. Many a person will take a card from a competitor if an AMD card simply can't be bought because stores have nothing to sell.
That being said, I visited a computer store this past weekend and there actually were two Sapphire 580s sitting on the shelf. I wouldn't expect them to remain there for long.
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#5469171 Posted on: 09/04/2017 01:26 PM
I managed to buy a sapphire special RX580 (the blue one). Only RX 580 which would make me upgrade from 290x without additional costs. 15 pieces of them did the retailer get (in Greece) all flew away almost immediately. I was lucky. Truth be told. If I would upgrade now I would definetly go the Ryzen route. I just don't because i think my i7 4790K still performs like a champ.
I managed to buy a sapphire special RX580 (the blue one). Only RX 580 which would make me upgrade from 290x without additional costs. 15 pieces of them did the retailer get (in Greece) all flew away almost immediately. I was lucky. Truth be told. If I would upgrade now I would definetly go the Ryzen route. I just don't because i think my i7 4790K still performs like a champ.
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#5469184 Posted on: 09/04/2017 01:54 PM
Great News!
Great News!
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#5469212 Posted on: 09/04/2017 03:30 PM
Good for them (and us!), we finally have healthy competition in the CPU segment.
Good for them (and us!), we finally have healthy competition in the CPU segment.
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#5469232 Posted on: 09/04/2017 04:23 PM
We are still on the old Fx platform but this will be my next upgrade for sure,more then likely the 5 1600 6/12 the price is just perfect.
Yeah I cant believe Amd was able to pull this off,Now I know for damm sure Intel has to do something like match Amd prices at the very least.Very happy for them its no easy task taking out a giant like Intel.
We are still on the old Fx platform but this will be my next upgrade for sure,more then likely the 5 1600 6/12 the price is just perfect.
Yeah I cant believe Amd was able to pull this off,Now I know for damm sure Intel has to do something like match Amd prices at the very least.Very happy for them its no easy task taking out a giant like Intel.
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#5469252 Posted on: 09/04/2017 06:07 PM
Yeah, I saw this over the weekend. It's good to see actual sales figures from a retailer/etailer (before now, all we could do was guess), and we can now say that Zen is a bonafide success. I can't wait to see what happens once the APUs arrive.
In particular, the 1600 really seems to have struck a chord with customers. Can't say I blame them, as it offers incredible value for the price. It's no wonder why Intel has been so panicky lately.
I use mine for grid computing, and it is phenomenal in that role, able to outperform my Ryzen 7 and Core i7 systems put together. It's definitely worth it for any app that can make use of all/most of the cores/threads.
Yeah, I saw this over the weekend. It's good to see actual sales figures from a retailer/etailer (before now, all we could do was guess), and we can now say that Zen is a bonafide success. I can't wait to see what happens once the APUs arrive.
In particular, the 1600 really seems to have struck a chord with customers. Can't say I blame them, as it offers incredible value for the price. It's no wonder why Intel has been so panicky lately.
Intel somewhat panicked and AMD have played their cards well(only on the CPU side unfortunately) - a great combination for the market. Now I'm curious about the performance of a Threadripper-based super computers.
I use mine for grid computing, and it is phenomenal in that role, able to outperform my Ryzen 7 and Core i7 systems put together. It's definitely worth it for any app that can make use of all/most of the cores/threads.
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#5469255 Posted on: 09/04/2017 06:10 PM
We are still on the old Fx platform but this will be my next upgrade for sure,more then likely the 5 1600 6/12 the price is just perfect.
Yeah I cant believe Amd was able to pull this off,Now I know for damm sure Intel has to do something like match Amd prices at the very least.Very happy for them its no easy task taking out a giant like Intel.
Years ago during the advent of the Athlon and the A64, for a couple of years there you couldn't find an Internet gaming site that was using Intel cpus...
Seriously--that's a fact...Intel just, like, disappeared from view there for a couple years. If not for management problems at AMD at the time I doubt Intel would ever have retrieved the lead, especially since the Core 2 is based on AMD's x86-64 license which Intel used. But poor management came to AMD--and then it hit Microsoft as well in Windows 8 (Win 7 was Microsoft's best-selling OS in history when Microsoft decided to scrub it for Win8--incredible!) when the markets went bonkers temporarily for iPads, and all that unseemly, stupid over-priced, under-performing jazz.
Today, AMD has many advantages over the first time the company routed Intel--today AMD is a household word--then, AMD was literally unknown, comparatively. Today, AMD technology has again leapfrogged Intel and has the company scrambling to keep up, but today AMD also has a signed legal agreement with Intel forbidding Intel to pay vendors not to sell AMD products--as they did then! You better believe AMD is watching that like a hawk... AMD is forcing Intel to compete on technology and price and *nothing else.* Which is the way it should be. And in the management department--critical--AMD is more competitive than it has ever been.
But surprised? No, I can't say I am--but "pleased", definitely...! After all, AMD has licked Intel once--and so I could never see a reason why they couldn't do it again--and I'm glad I was right about that...
We are still on the old Fx platform but this will be my next upgrade for sure,more then likely the 5 1600 6/12 the price is just perfect.
Yeah I cant believe Amd was able to pull this off,Now I know for damm sure Intel has to do something like match Amd prices at the very least.Very happy for them its no easy task taking out a giant like Intel.
Years ago during the advent of the Athlon and the A64, for a couple of years there you couldn't find an Internet gaming site that was using Intel cpus...
Seriously--that's a fact...Intel just, like, disappeared from view there for a couple years. If not for management problems at AMD at the time I doubt Intel would ever have retrieved the lead, especially since the Core 2 is based on AMD's x86-64 license which Intel used. But poor management came to AMD--and then it hit Microsoft as well in Windows 8 (Win 7 was Microsoft's best-selling OS in history when Microsoft decided to scrub it for Win8--incredible!) when the markets went bonkers temporarily for iPads, and all that unseemly, stupid over-priced, under-performing jazz.Today, AMD has many advantages over the first time the company routed Intel--today AMD is a household word--then, AMD was literally unknown, comparatively. Today, AMD technology has again leapfrogged Intel and has the company scrambling to keep up, but today AMD also has a signed legal agreement with Intel forbidding Intel to pay vendors not to sell AMD products--as they did then! You better believe AMD is watching that like a hawk...
AMD is forcing Intel to compete on technology and price and *nothing else.* Which is the way it should be. And in the management department--critical--AMD is more competitive than it has ever been.But surprised? No, I can't say I am--but "pleased", definitely...! After all, AMD has licked Intel once--and so I could never see a reason why they couldn't do it again--and I'm glad I was right about that...
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#5469256 Posted on: 09/04/2017 06:12 PM
I´m happy for AMD because we all like the underdog defeating the giant and force the giant to do a reality check once in a while and, in a long term, that is good for us, not because AMD is a NGO. I´m still waiting for Intel to release the I7-8700k cpu and see how it performs , at what cost and how it manages power comsumption and heat before taking any decision on which is going to be my next platform.
I´m happy for AMD because we all like the underdog defeating the giant and force the giant to do a reality check once in a while and, in a long term, that is good for us, not because AMD is a NGO. I´m still waiting for Intel to release the I7-8700k cpu and see how it performs , at what cost and how it manages power comsumption and heat before taking any decision on which is going to be my next platform.
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#5469266 Posted on: 09/04/2017 07:04 PM
Intel are very cocky and believe they can still milk people because of fanboys keep paying silly prices for Quad cores. They better get with the program or sales will swing even farther into Team Reds side pretty quickly. I have just ordered a 1600x, mobo and new ram so i can't wait to upgrade from 4 cores i5 to a 6c/12t proc. Intel has had enough of my money over the years and every purchase i made from them felt painful. AMD on the other hand deserve their success because they really do give great value.
Intel are very cocky and believe they can still milk people because of fanboys keep paying silly prices for Quad cores. They better get with the program or sales will swing even farther into Team Reds side pretty quickly. I have just ordered a 1600x, mobo and new ram so i can't wait to upgrade from 4 cores i5 to a 6c/12t proc. Intel has had enough of my money over the years and every purchase i made from them felt painful. AMD on the other hand deserve their success because they really do give great value.
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#5469293 Posted on: 09/04/2017 09:20 PM
Germans are very engineered minded people , of coarse there going to buy AMD over intel
Germans are very engineered minded people , of coarse there going to buy AMD over intel
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#5469304 Posted on: 09/04/2017 10:09 PM
Good. We need competition. We need improvements. And lower prices
Good. We need competition. We need improvements. And lower prices
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Intel somewhat panicked and AMD have played their cards well(only on the CPU side unfortunately) - a great combination for the market. Now I'm curious about the performance of a Threadripper-based super computers.