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USB 3.1 review: 10 Gbps USB with the ASUS Z97-A
Posted by: on: 02/25/2015 11:40 AM [
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We review a USB 3.1 motherboard from ASUS alongside RAID0 SSD based storage unit that is USB 3.1 compatible. Recently we have tested USB 3.0 SSDs from Samsung (the T1) and that performance was staggering at roughly 400 MB/s. With USB 3.1 now becoming available things change once again as we can reach speeds of an excess of 700 MB/s or better over USB 3.1, and in this article we'll show you all the details involved, and some performance numbers as well of course.
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scatman839
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 02:12 PM
Like the connector, if only it was flippable and somehow backwards compatible with usb mini (in a not flippable form).
Like the connector, if only it was flippable and somehow backwards compatible with usb mini (in a not flippable form).
Hughesy
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 02:14 PM
So basically it's similar to what Apple use for charging IPhones/iPads, as that can be flipped 180 so there's no wrong way to put it in.
So basically it's similar to what Apple use for charging IPhones/iPads, as that can be flipped 180 so there's no wrong way to put it in.
Glottiz
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 04:02 PM
everyone is mesmerized by seq speeds to notice really mediocre random speeds. 2 840 EVOs running in raid0 (!!!) and AS SSD Bench score is only 520. my single 840 EVO on sata3 has AS SSD score of over a thousand.
everyone is mesmerized by seq speeds to notice really mediocre random speeds. 2 840 EVOs running in raid0 (!!!) and AS SSD Bench score is only 520. my single 840 EVO on sata3 has AS SSD score of over a thousand.
ruiner13
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 06:01 PM
Can you add any IOPS tests? I'm less concerned about maximum bandwidth and more about how much overhead the bus adds. How do the speeds/latency compare with SATA3?
Can you add any IOPS tests? I'm less concerned about maximum bandwidth and more about how much overhead the bus adds. How do the speeds/latency compare with SATA3?
Mannerheim
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 07:36 PM
Why 4K has so much difference? Is there someking of magic or bull**** lies about performance?
Why 4K has so much difference? Is there someking of magic or bull**** lies about performance?
cyclone3d
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Posted on: 02/25/2015 10:20 PM
Because it is a lot faster to read/write the same amount of data in large chunks than it is to do in small chunks.
Think about it this way.
Small garden trowel vs full size shovel.
How long would it take to dig or fill in the same large hole when using one or the other?
If you are only writing and reading a ton of files that are 4k or less, than you want to look more at 4k performance. for everything else, 4k doesn't matter a whole lot.
Why 4K has so much difference? Is there someking of magic or bull**** lies about performance?
Because it is a lot faster to read/write the same amount of data in large chunks than it is to do in small chunks.
Think about it this way.
Small garden trowel vs full size shovel.
How long would it take to dig or fill in the same large hole when using one or the other?
If you are only writing and reading a ton of files that are 4k or less, than you want to look more at 4k performance. for everything else, 4k doesn't matter a whole lot.
Mannerheim
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Posted on: 02/26/2015 12:10 AM
I mean.. difference between 3.0 and 3.1..
I mean.. difference between 3.0 and 3.1..
ROMA_TUROK
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Posted on: 02/26/2015 04:30 PM
They should name it USB 4.0
They should name it USB 4.0
cyclone3d
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Posted on: 02/26/2015 04:38 PM
Because there is way less overhead with 3.1. Did you read the review or just look at the graphs?
I mean.. difference between 3.0 and 3.1..
Because there is way less overhead with 3.1. Did you read the review or just look at the graphs?
Dazz
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Posted on: 02/27/2015 01:36 AM
USB 3.1 is a game changer i think, although the ability to have the connector anyway way round is nice it does provide impressive speed but also it can deliver enough power to charge a laptop with upto 100w at 20v or even power your monitor with out having to connect it to a AC outlet. One cable and power supply and you will be able to charge every device, laptop, phone, tablet headset with out having to carry a massive amount of adapters around with you.
USB 3.1 is a game changer i think, although the ability to have the connector anyway way round is nice it does provide impressive speed but also it can deliver enough power to charge a laptop with upto 100w at 20v or even power your monitor with out having to connect it to a AC outlet. One cable and power supply and you will be able to charge every device, laptop, phone, tablet headset with out having to carry a massive amount of adapters around with you.
reix2x
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Posted on: 02/27/2015 03:19 AM
Yes it is similar, because that was a really good move (they should do it in the host side of the cable too).
A little thing that makes me worry, is that we still doesn't have 14 3.0 USB ports on today motherboards (my MB have 10 2.0 USB ports on the back and 4 on internal connector), and we are jumping to USB 3.1, of course this is a great advance, but the number of high speed ports should be raised.
Well and there's the problem with the really low number of USB 3.0 ports on modern Laptops (Even Ultra books like the Dell XPS 13 have only 2 USB 3.0 ports (no 2.0)).
So basically it's similar to what Apple use for charging IPhones/iPads, as that can be flipped 180 so there's no wrong way to put it in.
Yes it is similar, because that was a really good move (they should do it in the host side of the cable too).
A little thing that makes me worry, is that we still doesn't have 14 3.0 USB ports on today motherboards (my MB have 10 2.0 USB ports on the back and 4 on internal connector), and we are jumping to USB 3.1, of course this is a great advance, but the number of high speed ports should be raised.
Well and there's the problem with the really low number of USB 3.0 ports on modern Laptops (Even Ultra books like the Dell XPS 13 have only 2 USB 3.0 ports (no 2.0)).
TheSarge
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Posted on: 02/27/2015 05:26 AM
I agree but it's too late now.
Hilbert, could you run a comparison of USb 3.1 to an eSATA port connected to a SATA III port, or an eSATA card on a PCIe slot? I'd like to see what the real-world results are for an SSD.
They should name it USB 4.0
I agree but it's too late now.
Hilbert, could you run a comparison of USb 3.1 to an eSATA port connected to a SATA III port, or an eSATA card on a PCIe slot? I'd like to see what the real-world results are for an SSD.
snorge
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Posted on: 02/27/2015 08:22 AM
I'm kinda of annoyed I just bought my Asus motherboard and now they are refreshing them with USB 3.1 but oh well.
I'm kinda of annoyed I just bought my Asus motherboard and now they are refreshing them with USB 3.1 but oh well.
Glottiz
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Posted on: 02/27/2015 10:05 AM
if you think you really need usb 3.1 asus will sell expansion cards for 30 or 40$. btw, USB 3.1 motherboards will be more expensive than regular ones.
I'm kinda of annoyed I just bought my Asus motherboard and now they are refreshing them with USB 3.1 but oh well.
if you think you really need usb 3.1 asus will sell expansion cards for 30 or 40$. btw, USB 3.1 motherboards will be more expensive than regular ones.
snorge
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Posted on: 02/28/2015 05:12 AM
yeah true I might never really need it I just like the look of those ssd speeds but I guess m2 drives might give a boost in the future although I don't really understand how those are progressing.
if you think you really need usb 3.1 asus will sell expansion cards for 30 or 40$. btw, USB 3.1 motherboards will be more expensive than regular ones.
yeah true I might never really need it I just like the look of those ssd speeds but I guess m2 drives might give a boost in the future although I don't really understand how those are progressing.
TheSarge
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Posted on: 02/28/2015 05:28 AM
Welcome to the world of technology. Enjoy your stay.
I'm kinda of annoyed I just bought my Asus motherboard and now they are refreshing them with USB 3.1 but oh well.
Welcome to the world of technology. Enjoy your stay.
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Looks really good, but you know what, apart from the flippable connector my absolute favorite feature is the extra power handling. Even over the speed (almost).
Simply it means no more power bricks for so many hungrier USB devices / bigger HDD enclosures etc ^^