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The Witcher 3 Graphics Performance Review
Posted by: on: 05/20/2015 02:45 PM [
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In this article we benchmark The Witcher III on the PC - many graphics cards are being tested and benchmarked. We have a look at DX11 performance with the newest graphics cards and technologies.
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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 05/20/2015 03:00 PM
I'll have a look tomorrow, Hairworks is a NV feature and was disabled for fair comparison. This article is work in progress and I wanted the initials number out.
Basically I was waiting (hoping) on AMD for a driver ... but well.
I'll have a look tomorrow, Hairworks is a NV feature and was disabled for fair comparison. This article is work in progress and I wanted the initials number out.
Basically I was waiting (hoping) on AMD for a driver ... but well.
Denial
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Posted on: 05/20/2015 03:01 PM
HW is off for the test.
Oh, are you just asking for a comparison?
980 is 40% faster than a 780Ti in the QHD test compared to the 10-15% when the 980 launched. Nvidia posted on their forums that they are looking into it. I wonder if a 6GB 780Ti would perform better in the test? Also seems weird that the 780Ti only performs ~8% better than a 780. I wonder if it's a driver bug or something with the 780Ti
Nice review HH, like always. I was just expecting you do HW/off benchmark to compare. Its really taxing the AMD hardware. One of the articles said 290 is 77% faster with HW/off.
HW is off for the test.
Everything is set to Ultra, AA is enabled, Nvidia Hairworks is disabled and we use SSAO. The graphics cards used in this specific article are:
Oh, are you just asking for a comparison?
980 is 40% faster than a 780Ti in the QHD test compared to the 10-15% when the 980 launched. Nvidia posted on their forums that they are looking into it. I wonder if a 6GB 780Ti would perform better in the test? Also seems weird that the 780Ti only performs ~8% better than a 780. I wonder if it's a driver bug or something with the 780Ti
Dorlor
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Posted on: 05/20/2015 03:02 PM
Aaaand yet another benchmark that shows what all other benchmarks has shown - kepler having been seriously downgraded (intentional or accidental - im leaning towards intentional).
Some people claim its simply because Maxwell has been optimized, but if that was the case, then a gtx 980 should be MILES ahead of a 290x, and a 780 ti should still be on par with the 290x, but it isnt.
The gtx 980 is a tad ahead of the 290x as usual, while the 780 ti is waaaaay behind the 290x - the same can be seen with all the other kepler Cards, with the 780 almost performing the same as a freaking 960...
Aaaand yet another benchmark that shows what all other benchmarks has shown - kepler having been seriously downgraded (intentional or accidental - im leaning towards intentional).
Some people claim its simply because Maxwell has been optimized, but if that was the case, then a gtx 980 should be MILES ahead of a 290x, and a 780 ti should still be on par with the 290x, but it isnt.
The gtx 980 is a tad ahead of the 290x as usual, while the 780 ti is waaaaay behind the 290x - the same can be seen with all the other kepler Cards, with the 780 almost performing the same as a freaking 960...
Denial
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Posted on: 05/20/2015 03:20 PM
Aaaand yet another benchmark that shows what all other benchmarks has shown - kepler having been seriously downgraded (intentional or accidental - im leaning towards intentional).
Some people claim its simply because Maxwell has been optimized, but if that was the case, then a gtx 980 should be MILES ahead of a 290x, and a 780 ti should still be on par with the 290x, but it isnt.
The gtx 980 is a tad ahead of the 290x as usual, while the 780 ti is waaaaay behind the 290x - the same can be seen with all the other kepler Cards, with the 780 almost performing the same as a freaking 960...
Idk, honestly I'd like to see a 980's 3DMark scores over the last several driver releases.
I mean basically it seems like Maxwell on average is performing 20% faster than it was at launch. At launch a 980 was on average about 10-15% faster then a 780Ti. Now it seems like it's about 30-40% faster then a 780Ti in most recently released games.
A 960 was also about 20% slower then a 780. Now it seems like a 960 is about 2-5% slower.
The only real way to see if Nvidia is "downgrading" performance is to either A. Show me a driver where a Kepler series card performs 20% slower.
Or
B. Show me the 3DMark/Any Benchmark between release drivers of Maxwell and current drivers of Maxwell.
I think more than likely Maxwell is just getting the better end of the deal with drivers. Driver improvements slowed with Kepler by the time it was finished anyway. The 680 showed a 25% increase in performance from drivers over it' lifetime. 780 only showed a ~8-10% increase during it's lifetime. It's pretty clear that Kepler performance was maxed.
Regardless, ManuelG posted on the Nvidia forums that the driver teams are looking into it. So if there is an issue I'm sure it will be corrected.
Aaaand yet another benchmark that shows what all other benchmarks has shown - kepler having been seriously downgraded (intentional or accidental - im leaning towards intentional).
Some people claim its simply because Maxwell has been optimized, but if that was the case, then a gtx 980 should be MILES ahead of a 290x, and a 780 ti should still be on par with the 290x, but it isnt.
The gtx 980 is a tad ahead of the 290x as usual, while the 780 ti is waaaaay behind the 290x - the same can be seen with all the other kepler Cards, with the 780 almost performing the same as a freaking 960...
Idk, honestly I'd like to see a 980's 3DMark scores over the last several driver releases.
I mean basically it seems like Maxwell on average is performing 20% faster than it was at launch. At launch a 980 was on average about 10-15% faster then a 780Ti. Now it seems like it's about 30-40% faster then a 780Ti in most recently released games.
A 960 was also about 20% slower then a 780. Now it seems like a 960 is about 2-5% slower.
The only real way to see if Nvidia is "downgrading" performance is to either A. Show me a driver where a Kepler series card performs 20% slower.
Or
B. Show me the 3DMark/Any Benchmark between release drivers of Maxwell and current drivers of Maxwell.
I think more than likely Maxwell is just getting the better end of the deal with drivers. Driver improvements slowed with Kepler by the time it was finished anyway. The 680 showed a 25% increase in performance from drivers over it' lifetime. 780 only showed a ~8-10% increase during it's lifetime. It's pretty clear that Kepler performance was maxed.
Regardless, ManuelG posted on the Nvidia forums that the driver teams are looking into it. So if there is an issue I'm sure it will be corrected.
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Nice review HH, like always. I was just expecting you do HW/off benchmark to compare. Its really taxing the AMD hardware. One of the articles said 290 is 77% faster with HW/off.