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MSI GeForce GTX 780 LIGHTNING review
Posted by: on: 08/28/2013 09:55 AM [
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We benchmark, test and review the MSI GeForce GTX 780 LIGHTNING edition. The MSI team has been hard at work with this product, completely revamping the design, the PCB, the cooler, adding new components and yeah, to make this the a very overclockable graphics card MSI put in some extra lovin into AfterBurner as well. Wanna see how cool and incredible the card really is ? Well, then join us in this review.
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Gripen90
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 11:27 AM
I'd love to exchange my 780 TwinFrozr Gaming OC for this card
I'd love to exchange my 780 TwinFrozr Gaming OC for this card
cowie
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:12 PM
Think i am a go on one,my dcII is capped out at 1.4v.
I did think that the lightning would have a 120% powerlimit stock but only 109
that has to be dealt with pronto.
Think i am a go on one,my dcII is capped out at 1.4v.
I did think that the lightning would have a 120% powerlimit stock but only 109
that has to be dealt with pronto.
DiceAir
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:18 PM
do you guys think this is worth upgrading to or should I stick with my 570 SLi? BTW running at 2560x1440 @96Hz. I was also thinking of waiting for new amd cards
do you guys think this is worth upgrading to or should I stick with my 570 SLi? BTW running at 2560x1440 @96Hz. I was also thinking of waiting for new amd cards
Solfaur
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:30 PM
Looks good, though I like the design on my 680s lightnings more. That beeing said I am looking forward for the "maxwell lightning", whenever that comes out. The performance boost is just not high enough for me to upgrade just yet.
Looks good, though I like the design on my 680s lightnings more. That beeing said I am looking forward for the "maxwell lightning", whenever that comes out. The performance boost is just not high enough for me to upgrade just yet.
PhazeDelta1
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:37 PM
Nice review.
As i posted in another thread, this cooler has a design flaw.
The Heatpipers of the Heatsink block the ability to blow air against the PCB.
I bet if it was more open it could drop the GPU Temp by a fair bit aswell.
It's also tested on an open air test bench. So temps are probably going to be anywhere from 5-10c higher in an actual pc case depending on air flow.
Nice review.
As i posted in another thread, this cooler has a design flaw.
The Heatpipers of the Heatsink block the ability to blow air against the PCB.
I bet if it was more open it could drop the GPU Temp by a fair bit aswell.
It's also tested on an open air test bench. So temps are probably going to be anywhere from 5-10c higher in an actual pc case depending on air flow.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:46 PM
Incorrect, in fact a good ventilated chassis often shaves off a couple of degrees as it creates proper airflow.
It's also tested on an open air test bench. So temps are probably going to be anywhere from 5-10c higher in an actual pc case depending on air flow.
Incorrect, in fact a good ventilated chassis often shaves off a couple of degrees as it creates proper airflow.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:48 PM
Think i am a go on one,my dcII is capped out at 1.4v.
I did think that the lightning would have a 120% powerlimit stock but only 109
that has to be dealt with pronto.
I already have an LN2 BIOS that allows the power limiter at 300%. The problem however remains the voltage limiter (but that applies to all brands).
Anyway, if anyone decides to purchase and would like to try that BIOS, let me know.
Think i am a go on one,my dcII is capped out at 1.4v.
I did think that the lightning would have a 120% powerlimit stock but only 109
that has to be dealt with pronto.
I already have an LN2 BIOS that allows the power limiter at 300%. The problem however remains the voltage limiter (but that applies to all brands).
Anyway, if anyone decides to purchase and would like to try that BIOS, let me know.
rakunvar
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 02:54 PM
So these should actually stock today you think? seeing a few outta stock and 8/30 but been up all night spamming refresh haha. Just curios what your guys thoughts are
So these should actually stock today you think? seeing a few outta stock and 8/30 but been up all night spamming refresh haha. Just curios what your guys thoughts are
ceesay
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Posted on: 08/28/2013 04:25 PM
still happy with my 2x msi 780 gaming edition in sli runs so cool and Quiet and kick-ass @ 5920 x 1080 gaming ...
still happy with my 2x msi 780 gaming edition in sli runs so cool and Quiet and kick-ass @ 5920 x 1080 gaming ...
warezme
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 01:32 AM
I have never liked cards with fans that just blow the heat all up in your case like that. Yea, they work great on a test bed sitting out in the open but most people don't run their card on an open air test bed.
I have never liked cards with fans that just blow the heat all up in your case like that. Yea, they work great on a test bed sitting out in the open but most people don't run their card on an open air test bed.
PhazeDelta1
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 02:02 AM
I usually have the opposite effect unless i'm water cooling. Then I'll use a standard case.
Incorrect, in fact a good ventilated chassis often shaves off a couple of degrees as it creates proper airflow.
I usually have the opposite effect unless i'm water cooling. Then I'll use a standard case.
Veeshush
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 02:05 AM
Agreed. My 680 Lightning is the nicest looking piece of hardware I ever bought.
Looks good, though I like the design on my 680s lightnings more.
Agreed. My 680 Lightning is the nicest looking piece of hardware I ever bought.
TirolokoRD
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 05:11 AM
When this is gonna be launched?
When this is gonna be launched?
Taint3dBulge
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 06:16 AM
HUH? Is this meant for only the 7 series or 780's or all quad sli in general. Never have i herd this before. I know scaling and drivers get goofy at 3 and over. But im confused. Maybe iv just skimmed to many video card reviews and never read this before. Thought quad sli was always supported.
If we rotate the card and look at the backside we can see two SLI connectors, so in theory four cards in quad-SLI GPU mode are supported. But from what we learned, 3-way SLI is the maximum mode supported by NVIDIA. Now worries though as quad SLI is difficult and often a maze of driver problems, Nvidia has never really recommended and actively supported quad-SLI. We really recommend to go with a maximum of 2 maybe three cards anyway.
HUH? Is this meant for only the 7 series or 780's or all quad sli in general. Never have i herd this before. I know scaling and drivers get goofy at 3 and over. But im confused. Maybe iv just skimmed to many video card reviews and never read this before. Thought quad sli was always supported.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 08:01 AM
No, I know that shortly before the 780 release Quad SLI support was pulled completely except for two dual-GPU cards.
It can be enabled but requires a modded inf.
No, I know that shortly before the 780 release Quad SLI support was pulled completely except for two dual-GPU cards.
It can be enabled but requires a modded inf.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 10:34 AM
For those getting this card:
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/msi_geforce_gtx_780_lightning_plimit_bios_download.html
For those getting this card:
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/msi_geforce_gtx_780_lightning_plimit_bios_download.html
Koniakki
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 11:15 AM
Another kickass(2) review Hilb. Enjoyed!
Another kickass(2) review Hilb. Enjoyed!
Zoeff
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 11:24 AM
How does this compare to the EVGA 780 Classified? Looks like these two cards are designed to compete with each other.
How does this compare to the EVGA 780 Classified? Looks like these two cards are designed to compete with each other.
PhazeDelta1
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 11:27 AM
Lightning has 20 phase pwm
Classified has 14 phase pwn
Classified has better cooler depending on who you ask.
Other than that, there really is no difference between the 2.
Lightning has 20 phase pwm
Classified has 14 phase pwn
Classified has better cooler depending on who you ask.
Other than that, there really is no difference between the 2.
Koniakki
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 01:22 PM
Lightning has 20 phase pwm
Classified has 14 phase pwn
Classified has better cooler depending on who you ask.
Other than that, there really is no difference between the 2.
Well, if we take Hilbert's reviews as an indicative, then Lighting@Load its at 75'C while the EVGA 780 SC ACX is sitting at 65'C! Even the Palit 780 SJS is at 65'C?
And I have been reading the Classy cooler is a bit better too than the ACX.
So unless something's wrong, the cooler on the Lighting is actually not that good/bad for a custom one?
Lightning has 20 phase pwm
Classified has 14 phase pwn
Classified has better cooler depending on who you ask.
Other than that, there really is no difference between the 2.
Well, if we take Hilbert's reviews as an indicative, then Lighting@Load its at 75'C while the EVGA 780 SC ACX is sitting at 65'C! Even the Palit 780 SJS is at 65'C?
And I have been reading the Classy cooler is a bit better too than the ACX.
So unless something's wrong, the cooler on the Lighting is actually not that good/bad for a custom one?
Rich_Guy
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 03:53 PM
Pricing needs sorting, as you can get the much faster 7990 for around £100 less here in the UK.
Pricing needs sorting, as you can get the much faster 7990 for around £100 less here in the UK.
Undying
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 03:56 PM
Little? 799€ is damn rip off, lol...
Pricing needs sorting, as you can get the much faster 7990 for around £100 less here in the UK.
Little? 799€ is damn rip off, lol...
Koniakki
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 07:01 PM
I missed the price in the conclusion! €800?? Someone's smoking the overpriced-stuff as it seems.
I can get a Palit 780 Jetstream for €550 or the Super Jetstream for €565! Hell, there's a shop selling a reference GB 780 for €505!
Also MSI 780 OC, EVGA 780 SC, GB 780 OC and Zotac 780 AMP are selling for under €600.
Seriously €800? Oh please....
Little? 799€ is damn rip off, lol...
I missed the price in the conclusion! €800?? Someone's smoking the overpriced-stuff as it seems.
I can get a Palit 780 Jetstream for €550 or the Super Jetstream for €565! Hell, there's a shop selling a reference GB 780 for €505!
Also MSI 780 OC, EVGA 780 SC, GB 780 OC and Zotac 780 AMP are selling for under €600.
Seriously €800? Oh please....
Solfaur
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Posted on: 08/29/2013 07:43 PM
I too just noticed the €800 pricetag, wtf.
Little? 799€ is damn rip off, lol...
I too just noticed the €800 pricetag, wtf.
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As i posted in another thread, this cooler has a design flaw.
The Heatpipers of the Heatsink block the ability to blow air against the PCB.
I bet if it was more open it could drop the GPU Temp by a fair bit aswell.