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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X review
Posted by: on: 08/10/2017 02:00 PM [
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Next to the sixteen core Ryzen Threadripper 1950X processor AMD also has released its twelve core Ryzen Threadripper 1920X processor which we review in this article. So what's it gonna be for you, what does make more sense: 12 or 16 cores?
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WhiteLightning
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:40 PM
Its hammer time
Epic CPU's. These are great for streamers (who just want one rig to do it all).
Its hammer time
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Epic CPU's. These are great for streamers (who just want one rig to do it all).
Aura89
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 02:45 PM
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
So, basically, for $1000, if you go AMD instead of Intel, you can get a much, much faster processor, or for $200 less, you can still get a decently faster processor then going Intel.
Yup.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:07 PM
I would love to see this. A 12 core Threadripper at $799 plus a GTX 1080 Ti, against an 7900X at $999 with a GTX 1080.
Thanks for this review.
Yes you'll be able to perhaps gain 10% more perf at 1080p in a CPU bound situation from a faster clocked Intel counter-part. How important that is to you is totally up-to you. My advise, take the money you save on the AMD platform and invest that in a faster GPU.
I would love to see this. A 12 core Threadripper at $799 plus a GTX 1080 Ti, against an 7900X at $999 with a GTX 1080.
Thanks for this review.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 03:07 PM
Awesome review as always Hilbert , thank you for the in depth review !
Absolutely amazing performance , great to see AMD back in the top. Finally the Intel monopoly has been broken and that is a good thing as everybody wins here.
Awesome review as always Hilbert , thank you for the in depth review !
Absolutely amazing performance , great to see AMD back in the top. Finally the Intel monopoly has been broken and that is a good thing as everybody wins here.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 05:36 PM
H, can you test numa vs the other mode in AIDAI64 cache/latency test?
Curious how much of a difference it makes, Intel can be less than 40ns depending on ram.
H, can you test numa vs the other mode in AIDAI64 cache/latency test?
Curious how much of a difference it makes, Intel can be less than 40ns depending on ram.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 06:04 PM
H, can you test numa vs the other mode in AIDAI64 cache/latency test?
Curious how much of a difference it makes, Intel can be less than 40ns depending on ram.
I already did?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,20.html
But I also made the remark that AIDA needs to be updated. The numbers are not yet 100% right. UMA (Distributed) would site in the 90~100ns and NUMA (local) in the 60~70ns ranges.
H, can you test numa vs the other mode in AIDAI64 cache/latency test?
Curious how much of a difference it makes, Intel can be less than 40ns depending on ram.
I already did?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,20.html
But I also made the remark that AIDA needs to be updated. The numbers are not yet 100% right. UMA (Distributed) would site in the 90~100ns and NUMA (local) in the 60~70ns ranges.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 06:22 PM
Thanks HH, nice review. Is there an error in the Firestrike chart p27? The 7700k surely cant be doing that good vs all these high end multi-cores in this test?
Thanks HH, nice review. Is there an error in the Firestrike chart p27? The 7700k surely cant be doing that good vs all these high end multi-cores in this test?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 07:30 PM
Firestrike is pretty sensitive to high CPU frequencies (which the OC already shows, far more so than Time Spy. The 7700k is doing well there thanks to its 4.5 GHz boost.
Thanks HH, nice review. Is there an error in the Firestrike chart p27? The 7700k surely cant be doing that good vs all these high end multi-cores in this test?
Firestrike is pretty sensitive to high CPU frequencies (which the OC already shows, far more so than Time Spy. The 7700k is doing well there thanks to its 4.5 GHz boost.
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Posted on: 08/10/2017 09:18 PM
I already did?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,20.html
But I also made the remark that AIDA needs to be updated. The numbers are not yet 100% right. UMA (Distributed) would site in the 90~100ns and NUMA (local) in the 60~70ns ranges.
Oops I'm blind.
Thanks
Wonder if this would help those games that are poorly threaded, AKA old UE3 games and the like.
I already did?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_review,20.html
But I also made the remark that AIDA needs to be updated. The numbers are not yet 100% right. UMA (Distributed) would site in the 90~100ns and NUMA (local) in the 60~70ns ranges.
Oops I'm blind.
Thanks
Wonder if this would help those games that are poorly threaded, AKA old UE3 games and the like.
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Posted on: 08/11/2017 07:59 AM
I'm wondering why is there a 13 FPS difference between the 1950X and 1920X in Hitman 1080p in favor of 1950X when the stock 1920X has even higher base clock ?
I'm wondering why is there a 13 FPS difference between the 1950X and 1920X in Hitman 1080p in favor of 1950X when the stock 1920X has even higher base clock ?
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Posted on: 08/11/2017 09:58 PM
Additional cores?
The 7900k wins out to a 7740k even though the 7740k has higher clocked speeds as well
I'm wondering why is there a 13 FPS difference between the 1950X and 1920X in Hitman 1080p in favor of 1950X when the stock 1920X has even higher base clock ?
Additional cores?
The 7900k wins out to a 7740k even though the 7740k has higher clocked speeds as well
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Posted on: 08/12/2017 04:36 AM
Thanks for posting that video of the 1920x running BF1. That is interesting that the game can handle up to 12 threads but seems like only 4 really get used used more then 25%, and 1 of the 4 is at 100%. But then again, that 1 core is prolly handling alot of other things on top of the game. So that makes me wonder, why doesnt it push more processing power to a core that is only being 30-40% utilized?
Anyways thanks again for spending time doing that.
Thanks for posting that video of the 1920x running BF1. That is interesting that the game can handle up to 12 threads but seems like only 4 really get used used more then 25%, and 1 of the 4 is at 100%. But then again, that 1 core is prolly handling alot of other things on top of the game. So that makes me wonder, why doesnt it push more processing power to a core that is only being 30-40% utilized?
Anyways thanks again for spending time doing that.
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Posted on: 08/12/2017 11:19 AM
Additional cores?
The 7900k wins out to a 7740k even though the 7740k has higher clocked speeds as well
Makes no sense. It gets beaten by all those Ryzens 7 and 5 even overclocked to 4 GHz and has way more cores.
Additional cores?
The 7900k wins out to a 7740k even though the 7740k has higher clocked speeds as well
Makes no sense. It gets beaten by all those Ryzens 7 and 5 even overclocked to 4 GHz and has way more cores.
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Posted on: 08/12/2017 12:03 PM
Yeah I remember running the test several times, each time with the same outcome. No clue, I can only note down what I measure. With upcoming X399 reviews I'll again revisit and re-check that though.
Yeah I remember running the test several times, each time with the same outcome. No clue, I can only note down what I measure. With upcoming X399 reviews I'll again revisit and re-check that though.
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Posted on: 08/12/2017 01:48 PM
I thought it might be the difference between distributed and local RAM mode. But then I thought you tested both threadrippers in the same mode. Strange...
Yeah I remember running the test several times, each time with the same outcome. No clue, I can only note down what I measure. With upcoming X399 reviews I'll again revisit and re-check that though.
I thought it might be the difference between distributed and local RAM mode. But then I thought you tested both threadrippers in the same mode. Strange...
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Posted on: 08/12/2017 08:12 PM
Makes perfect sense. The game apparently supports additional cores, but is not linear in terms of how much extra performance those cores give you.
Makes no sense. It gets beaten by all those Ryzens 7 and 5 even overclocked to 4 GHz and has way more cores.
Makes perfect sense. The game apparently supports additional cores, but is not linear in terms of how much extra performance those cores give you.
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Posted on: 08/13/2017 10:54 AM
Man are you looking at the same charts as I do ? Your theory makes no sense, which even Hilbert just confirmed above. The 1920X is loosing to fricking Ryzen 5 - 6 core and it is loosing to it even when overclocked.
Makes perfect sense. The game apparently supports additional cores, but is not linear in terms of how much extra performance those cores give you.
Man are you looking at the same charts as I do ? Your theory makes no sense, which even Hilbert just confirmed above. The 1920X is loosing to fricking Ryzen 5 - 6 core and it is loosing to it even when overclocked.
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Posted on: 08/13/2017 11:46 AM
Nicely written and thoroughly tested. Thanks, Hilbert.
Also, thank you for the feedback to other forum members. It's always nice to be able to discuss benchmark results.
Nicely written and thoroughly tested. Thanks, Hilbert.
Also, thank you for the feedback to other forum members. It's always nice to be able to discuss benchmark results.
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Both this and the 1950X are as expected....Awesome for the money but I do agree with you Hilbert this one needs to be 749 to be priced correctly as it were.
Great reviews as always