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ASUS ROG Maximus X Apex review - The Coffee Lake Platform

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 12/07/2017 11:15 AM [ 5] 11 comment(s)

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Core i7 8th Gen Coffee Lake series processors

During Computex 2017, Intel announced Kaby Lake-X and Skylake-X processors shortly followed by Coffee Lake. Coffee Lake (8th gen) six-core processors are based on the LGA1151 socket but will require a new motherboard chipset. They have a TDP of either 65 or 95W. There will be two 6-core models with HT (12MB L3) and two without HT (9MB L3). The four core models (8MB L3) will not get Hyper-Threading.
 

Coffee Lake

Kaby Lake

Broadwell-E

Kaby Lake-X

Skylake-X

CPU cores

4,6

4

6, 8, 10

4

6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16

Cache

Up-to 12MB

8MB

Up to 25MB

8MB

13.75MB

PCIe support

PCIe 3.0 (16 lanes)

PCIe 3.0 (16 lanes)

PCIe 3.0 (40/28 lanes)

PCIe 3.0 (16 lanes)

PCIe 3.0 (44/28 lanes)

Integrated graphics

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

TDP 

95W / 65W

95W

140W

112W

140W

Socket

LGA 1151

LGA 1151

LGA 2011-v3

LGA 2066

LGA 2066

Chipset

Z370 / Z390

Z270

X99

X299

X299

Memory support

Dual-channel DDR4

Dual-channel DDR4

Quad-channel DDR4

Dual DDR4

Quad-channel DDR4

 
There is actually more coming from Intel, 10nm Ice Lake. That generation will offer up-to 8-core parts. But it likely requires a new socket for that new chipset, at the very least a new motherboard as the Z390 chipset is a mandatory change. Coffee Lake is based on a 14nm fabrication node with desktop versions in 4-core and 6-core models. These parts are tied to the B360 and Z370 chipsets and, you guessed it, they will require a new motherboard. Intel will release K models (unlocked) in the Coffee Lake generation.

Small architecture changes

The new Coffee Lake series processors share design elements found in the Kaby Lake and Skylake architectures that you know from the socket 1151 parts, but then scaled upwards to six cores. The processor series is fabbed at 14nm. Intel claims IPC has been improved, meaning the number of instructions per clock-cycle has been improved. Our tests show that is not true. More on that later in the benchmarks though. Intel processor caches then; for Coffee Lake, the L2 cache is 256 kB per core. The L3 cache is 12MB for the 6-core enabled part and 9 MB for the models that have Hyper-Threading disabled. Intel thus tweaked L2 and L3 caches based on SMT. With the new processors, you will also see two Turbo modes dubbed 2.0 and 3.0. We’ll keep it simple, but basically, with Turbo mode 3.0 one thread will clock higher whereas if you use more than 1 thread, the Turbo mode 2.0 will kick in at a lower frequency on all cores and threads. 
 

Core i7 8700K

Core i7 7740X

Core i7 7700K

Core i5 7640K

Core i5 7600K

Architecture

Cofee Lake

Kaby Lake-X

Kaby Lake

Kaby Lake-X

Kaby Lake

CPU cores

 6

4

4

4

4

Threads

 12

8

8

4

4

Base clockspeed

 3.7GHz

4.2GHz

4.2GHz

4GHz

3.8GHz

Turbo

4.3 / 4.7 (1T)

4.5GHz

4.5GHz

>4GHz

4.2GHz

Cache

12MB L3

8MB L3

8MB L3

6MB L3

6MB L3

Integrated graphics

 Yes

No

Yes

No

Yes

TDP

95W

112W

91W

112W

91W

Socket

LGA 1151

LGA 2066

LGA 1151

LGA 2066

LGA 1151

Chipset

Z370 / Z390

X299

Z270

X299

Z270

Memory support

Dual channel DDR4

Dual/Quad channel DDR4

Dual channel DDR4

Dual/Quad channel DDR4

Dual channel DDR4

 

If you've already purchased a Z270 motherboard with the LGA 1151 socket you cannot re-use it with the 8th Gen 6-core processors. Despite using the same socket you will need to purchase a Z370 motherboard. This chipset will be called Z370 (Union Point platform), it will offer dual-channel memory for Coffee Lake processors (Intel rated up-to 2400 MHz). In the end that entails a four to six-core Coffee Lake processor core line-up. There are some changes that you will need to be aware of. First off, the DMI interface (the IO interconnect in-between the processor and chipset) is getting more bandwidth, roughly 4 GB/s. That means you’ll have 16x Gen 3 PCIe lanes on the processor which has another 4 for the DMI interface to the chipset. The Z370 chipset has up to 30 high-speed I/O lanes with port flexibility which adds up to 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes from the chipset for connections in the IO like SATA, M.2, USB and so onwards. As of 2017, Intel still has not embedded USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) into the processor but does offer 10x USB 3.1 Gen1 (5 Gbps) through the chipset.

The Processor and PCI-Express

  • Coffee Lake Quad and Six core procs get 16 PCI-Express Lanes 3.0
  • Kaby Lake-X Quad core procs get 16 PCI-Express Lanes 3.0
  • Skylake-X six and eight core procs get 28 PCI-Express Lanes 3.0
  • Skylake-X ten core procs get 44 PCI-Express Lanes 3.0

The Coffee Lake procs will support dual-channel DDR4 and 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes. That means in the year 2017, with this Core i7 series processor you still cannot get full x16 each with two graphics cards. The new platform also offers support for Intel Optane. The chipset will add additional PCIe lanes for your storage connectivity. In-between the processor and the chipset there is an updated DMI (revision 3.0) link (equivalent to a full PCIe 3.0 x4 link). Now, you will probably have noticed that many motherboards will offer support for two or three M.2 storage units. So how would that work out with an x16 gen 3.0 processor you wonder? Well, the chipset adds up-to another 24 PCIe lanes. Here the extra 3rd party SATA / USB controllers and thus M.2 storage units can draw their bandwidth from. 

The Processor line-up

A lot is said and stated about the new line-up, Coffee Lake is making things even more confusing (not to mention the pending Ice Lake and Z390). It’s a very confusing series of processors where Intel uses not one, but right now three architectures in the year 2017 (Kaby-Lake-X / Skylake-X and Coffee Lake). So let's chart Coffee Lake up in the table overview:

 

ProcessorCores / ThreadsBase ClockTurbo 2.0 (6c)Turbo 3.0 (1c)L3TDPPrice
Core i7 8700K 6/12 3.7 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.7 GHz 12 MB 95 W $359 / €389
Core i7 8700 6/12 3.2 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.6 GHz 12 MB 65 W $303 / €327
Core i5 8600K 6/6 3.6 GHz 4.1 GHz 4.3 GHz 9 MB 95 W $257 / €273
Core i5 8400 6/6 2.8 GHz 3.8 GHz 4.0 GHz 9 MB 65 W $182 / €192
Core i3 8350K 4/4 4.0 GHz NA NA 8 MB 91 W $169 / €189
Core i3 8300 4/4 4.0 GHz NA NA 8 MB 65 W -
Core i3 8100 4/4 3.6 GHz NA NA 6 MB 65 W $117 / €123

  

Coffee Lake (8th gen) six-core processors are based on the LGA1151 socket but will require a new motherboard chipset. They have a TDP of either 65 or 95W. There will be two 6-core models with HT (12MB L3) and two without HT (9MB L3). The 4-core models (8MB L3) will not get Hyper-Threading, which confirms earlier rumors.  Looking at the differences we see that Coffee Lake will be a bit more expensive compared to the current Core i5 and i7 lines. The Core i7 8700K with six-cores and one thread will cost €389,- the 8600K with six cores and threads, €273. Above, an overview of prices, cores, and frequencies. The prices listed will differ here and there a bit basically due to differences of VAT per country. 




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