My 3600 at stock scores 3702 in the multi test, so not really impressed with the stock 5600X score tbh. Some of the results were on a hefty OC, too. Not sure what I expected but the gaming perf was always going to be the main reason why a Zen 2 user would consider Zen 3 anyway.

Supertribble:

My 3600 at stock scores 3702 in the multi test, so not really impressed with the stock 5600X score tbh. Some of the results were on a hefty OC, too. Not sure what I expected but the gaming perf was always going to be the main reason why a Zen 2 user would consider Zen 3 anyway.

Unless you're maxing out your 3600/3600x processor, you don't need anything from the 5000 series. I'd love one too, but my 3950x will last me for a LONG time. I am OK with keeping it for a while considering I paid 700$ for it, taxes included (this summer). Most folks would have waited longer to get the new series, but I didn't know if they were going to hold back the 5950x for a few months post-5000-release, how much better it'd actually be, and I needed it VS wanted it. So I ended up springing for it this summer since the 3700x wasn't enough to run 20~25 vehicles in BeamNG Drive for traffic tests - the 3700x could comfortably run up to about 16 vehicles, but 20 was a bit of a stretch (the more vehicles I can run, the quicker I can pick out problems with the AI traffic simulation, as I'm designing a city map in the game, and soft-body physics is very hard on the CPU). If you had a use-case similar to that, you'd want more processor, or NEED it. If you don't really have a strong use-case where you need more speed, then you'll be fine with the 3600 processor for years yet. If you aren't going to overclock the 5xxx processor, you have even a little bit less of a reason to go and upgrade. Now, if you were going for a 5900x, or even a little less the 5800x, you'd feel that upgrade a bit more - but again - only if you had a use for it. I'd reckon those on the 1000 series and possibly 2000 series lower end processors would really see a night and day difference though. For others considering upgrading: Those on Haswell and older intel processors will see a clear upgrade difference without needing benchmark numbers at all. I went to a 3700x originally from an i7 4790k / 4.4ghz all-core / air cooled / 32gb 2400mhz cl-11 Corsair memory / RX 480 8gb (at the time), and there was a night and day difference, not just in speed, but the room was consistently 5~8F cooler (3~5C) as well (the non-overclocked 3950x heats this bedroom up roughly as much as the 4790k @ 4.4ghz all-core did!). Those on Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge - or the still-holding-out x58, it's time to upgrade guys (well, if you can afford it, if you cannot, I entirely understand). For those playing older DIRECT X 11 titles or other non-vulkan / non-DX12 games, you're often going to be limited by single-core max boost speeds, failing that, all core or 4-core boost speeds (depending on the game, how many cores it uses, and how many cores total your CPU has without HT/SMT). So those of you out there might feel this upgrade a bit more. DX11 and lower DX games use a single core to feed the rendering data - all of it - to the GPU. These games will hence-forth be limited to whatever speed that core can go, depending on how many other cores are loaded at the time, and what your GPU can do. These folks will appreciate a CPU upgrade (at-least until the limits of the GPU are hit, which means you've only kicked the can down the road some, welcome to PC life). Those with a less powerful GPU might not even hit the full CPU's ability to push render data on a single core in some situations, especially over 1080p. Those with an RTX or Radeon 5700 will normally see a good boost here if your GPU is currently loafing while the CPU is drowning in work. So make sure you NEED the upgrade, otherwise you're just throwing money at something that isn't a problem and might feel a bit blue despite buying red. For folks that need to know, and don't currently know how; MSI Afterburner and any number of in-game benchmarks (and to a lesser extent, Task Manager itself in Windows 10) can often tell you what part of your system is maxing out and could use the boost the most. Folks on 400 series boards must wait for the BIOS updates to become available from the manufacturer before running 5000-series processors. Folks on 300 series boards are likely to be out of luck completely. While this isn't planned to be supported at all, it COULD be later on, or you might be able to find a 'hacked' BIOS down the road if someone puts in the microcode manually - but that has inherent risk and isn't always worth bricking a board over. Don't hold your breath basically, and plan on getting a new mainboard. I think it's worth getting a new one anyways if you plan on getting a new Radeon GPU in the next two years and a 5000-series CPU, to use the new Smart Access Memory for that free extra boost of (a few) FPS when surplus VRAM is available. The Russian / Chinese hacking community does some strange things - like make socket 771 CPUs work on socket 775 boards, and making Coffee Lake quad-cores work on a 100-series mainboard, I wouldn't put it past them to make a newer Ryzen processor work on a 300-series mainboard. Of course this is never promised, but it's a nice bonus if it happens (and if it works without weird errors cropping up randomly). Hope this helps, Good luck, and Enjoy the release guys!!! It's so nice to have competition AND PROGRESS again, and I mean it. I'm just out for the best deal, for great performance, and something that's NOT a quad core 🙂 P.S. Also, at this current time and day, it does not make sense to buy a 400 or 300 series mainboard, please get a 500-series board for best results with the new, or even 3000 series processors. While we don't need PCI-E 4.0 as much as quicker processors or GPU's, it'll be required to make use of Smart Access Memory, quicker NVME drives, and makes pci-e x1 slots twice as fast as before (or four times as fast if the bottom half of your board is only pci-e 2.0).

I play at 4K so will be GPU limited tbh. These new CPUs have some interest but for me they are pretty pointless, but have more appeal for high refresh gamers.

bobblunderton:

For others considering upgrading: Those on Haswell and older intel processors will see a clear upgrade difference without needing benchmark numbers at all. I went to a 3700x originally from an i7 4790k / 4.4ghz all-core / air cooled / 32gb 2400mhz cl-11 Corsair memory / RX 480 8gb (at the time), and there was a night and day difference, not just in speed, but the room was consistently 5~8F cooler (3~5C) as well (the non-overclocked 3950x heats this bedroom up roughly as much as the 4790k @ 4.4ghz all-core did!). Those on Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge - or the still-holding-out x58, it's time to upgrade guys (well, if you can afford it, if you cannot, I entirely understand). For those playing older DIRECT X 11 titles or other non-vulkan / non-DX12 games, you're often going to be limited by single-core max boost speeds, failing that, all core or 4-core boost speeds (depending on the game, how many cores it uses, and how many cores total your CPU has without HT/SMT). So those of you out there might feel this upgrade a bit more. DX11 and lower DX games use a single core to feed the rendering data - all of it - to the GPU. These games will hence-forth be limited to whatever speed that core can go, depending on how many other cores are loaded at the time, and what your GPU can do. These folks will appreciate a CPU upgrade (at-least until the limits of the GPU are hit, which means you've only kicked the can down the road some, welcome to PC life). Those with a less powerful GPU might not even hit the full CPU's ability to push render data on a single core in some situations, especially over 1080p. Those with an RTX or Radeon 5700 will normally see a good boost here if your GPU is currently loafing while the CPU is drowning in work. So make sure you NEED the upgrade, otherwise you're just throwing money at something that isn't a problem and might feel a bit blue despite buying red. For folks that need to know, and don't currently know how; MSI Afterburner and any number of in-game benchmarks (and to a lesser extent, Task Manager itself in Windows 10) can often tell you what part of your system is maxing out and could use the boost the most. Folks on 400 series boards must wait for the BIOS updates to become available from the manufacturer before running 5000-series processors. Folks on 300 series boards are likely to be out of luck completely. While this isn't planned to be supported at all, it COULD be later on, or you might be able to find a 'hacked' BIOS down the road if someone puts in the microcode manually - but that has inherent risk and isn't always worth bricking a board over. Don't hold your breath basically, and plan on getting a new mainboard. I think it's worth getting a new one anyways if you plan on getting a new Radeon GPU in the next two years and a 5000-series CPU, to use the new Smart Access Memory for that free extra boost of (a few) FPS when surplus VRAM is available. The Russian / Chinese hacking community does some strange things - like make socket 771 CPUs work on socket 775 boards, and making Coffee Lake quad-cores work on a 100-series mainboard, I wouldn't put it past them to make a newer Ryzen processor work on a 300-series mainboard. Of course this is never promised, but it's a nice bonus if it happens (and if it works without weird errors cropping up randomly). Hope this helps, Good luck, and Enjoy the release guys!!! It's so nice to have competition AND PROGRESS again, and I mean it. I'm just out for the best deal, for great performance, and something that's NOT a quad core 🙂 P.S. Also, at this current time and day, it does not make sense to buy a 400 or 300 series mainboard, please get a 500-series board for best results with the new, or even 3000 series processors. While we don't need PCI-E 4.0 as much as quicker processors or GPU's, it'll be required to make use of Smart Access Memory, quicker NVME drives, and makes pci-e x1 slots twice as fast as before (or four times as fast if the bottom half of your board is only pci-e 2.0).

Thanks very much for the information 🙂

NightWind:

Those results/numbers look pretty good Lily GFX.

I think they look awesome so far 😀

Matt26LFC:

Definitely, they have certainly cracked it this gen by the looks of it! Hoping to pick up both 5600X and 5900X at launch. The 5900X will eventually find itself in my daily after I've benched it 😉 Will see about getting a 5800X to bench at a later date, maybe 5950x too, but it's getting expensive at that point even with AMDs prices haha

True seems AMD done really well this time. I hope that you get some really good samples and I wish you good luck on benching them. 🙂

bobblunderton:

Unless you're maxing out your 3600/3600x processor, you don't need anything from the 5000 series. I'd love one too, but my 3950x will last me for a LONG time. I am OK with keeping it for a while considering I paid 700$ for it, taxes included (this summer). Most folks would have waited longer to get the new series, but I didn't know if they were going to hold back the 5950x for a few months post-5000-release, how much better it'd actually be, and I needed it VS wanted it. So I ended up springing for it this summer since the 3700x wasn't enough to run 20~25 vehicles in BeamNG Drive for traffic tests - the 3700x could comfortably run up to about 16 vehicles, but 20 was a bit of a stretch (the more vehicles I can run, the quicker I can pick out problems with the AI traffic simulation, as I'm designing a city map in the game, and soft-body physics is very hard on the CPU). If you had a use-case similar to that, you'd want more processor, or NEED it. If you don't really have a strong use-case where you need more speed, then you'll be fine with the 3600 processor for years yet. If you aren't going to overclock the 5xxx processor, you have even a little bit less of a reason to go and upgrade. Now, if you were going for a 5900x, or even a little less the 5800x, you'd feel that upgrade a bit more - but again - only if you had a use for it. I'd reckon those on the 1000 series and possibly 2000 series lower end processors would really see a night and day difference though. For others considering upgrading: Those on Haswell and older intel processors will see a clear upgrade difference without needing benchmark numbers at all. I went to a 3700x originally from an i7 4790k / 4.4ghz all-core / air cooled / 32gb 2400mhz cl-11 Corsair memory / RX 480 8gb (at the time), and there was a night and day difference, not just in speed, but the room was consistently 5~8F cooler (3~5C) as well (the non-overclocked 3950x heats this bedroom up roughly as much as the 4790k @ 4.4ghz all-core did!). Those on Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge - or the still-holding-out x58, it's time to upgrade guys (well, if you can afford it, if you cannot, I entirely understand). For those playing older DIRECT X 11 titles or other non-vulkan / non-DX12 games, you're often going to be limited by single-core max boost speeds, failing that, all core or 4-core boost speeds (depending on the game, how many cores it uses, and how many cores total your CPU has without HT/SMT). So those of you out there might feel this upgrade a bit more. DX11 and lower DX games use a single core to feed the rendering data - all of it - to the GPU. These games will hence-forth be limited to whatever speed that core can go, depending on how many other cores are loaded at the time, and what your GPU can do. These folks will appreciate a CPU upgrade (at-least until the limits of the GPU are hit, which means you've only kicked the can down the road some, welcome to PC life). Those with a less powerful GPU might not even hit the full CPU's ability to push render data on a single core in some situations, especially over 1080p. Those with an RTX or Radeon 5700 will normally see a good boost here if your GPU is currently loafing while the CPU is drowning in work. So make sure you NEED the upgrade, otherwise you're just throwing money at something that isn't a problem and might feel a bit blue despite buying red. For folks that need to know, and don't currently know how; MSI Afterburner and any number of in-game benchmarks (and to a lesser extent, Task Manager itself in Windows 10) can often tell you what part of your system is maxing out and could use the boost the most. Folks on 400 series boards must wait for the BIOS updates to become available from the manufacturer before running 5000-series processors. Folks on 300 series boards are likely to be out of luck completely. While this isn't planned to be supported at all, it COULD be later on, or you might be able to find a 'hacked' BIOS down the road if someone puts in the microcode manually - but that has inherent risk and isn't always worth bricking a board over. Don't hold your breath basically, and plan on getting a new mainboard. I think it's worth getting a new one anyways if you plan on getting a new Radeon GPU in the next two years and a 5000-series CPU, to use the new Smart Access Memory for that free extra boost of (a few) FPS when surplus VRAM is available. The Russian / Chinese hacking community does some strange things - like make socket 771 CPUs work on socket 775 boards, and making Coffee Lake quad-cores work on a 100-series mainboard, I wouldn't put it past them to make a newer Ryzen processor work on a 300-series mainboard. Of course this is never promised, but it's a nice bonus if it happens (and if it works without weird errors cropping up randomly). Hope this helps, Good luck, and Enjoy the release guys!!! It's so nice to have competition AND PROGRESS again, and I mean it. I'm just out for the best deal, for great performance, and something that's NOT a quad core 🙂 P.S. Also, at this current time and day, it does not make sense to buy a 400 or 300 series mainboard, please get a 500-series board for best results with the new, or even 3000 series processors. While we don't need PCI-E 4.0 as much as quicker processors or GPU's, it'll be required to make use of Smart Access Memory, quicker NVME drives, and makes pci-e x1 slots twice as fast as before (or four times as fast if the bottom half of your board is only pci-e 2.0).

i have a 3900x i got it on release, and im getting the 5900x, im mostly a gamer tho, but if i were you i would sell the 3950x and get the 5950x its a cheap upgrade to be honest, the 3950x is still worth good money

b-but where is the 5700X though 🙁

amazon uk doing preorders for ryzen 5 5600x now get one before its to late

I expected to see reviews for Zen 3 parts today, are they really not dropping until tomorrow? edit I'm not seeing any results for the 5600X on Amazon, maybe they're gone. 😕

Jawnys:

i have a 3900x i got it on release, and im getting the 5900x, im mostly a gamer tho, but if i were you i would sell the 3950x and get the 5950x its a cheap upgrade to be honest, the 3950x is still worth good money

Oh for-sure, if I need to upgrade that is 100% spot-on what I'd do. I will be entirely awesome (if I didn't boast enough about the wonder that AMD gave us with the 3950x enough in my last post), but the thing is honestly, do I really *NEED* it? I really honestly don't think that, for instance, I were to go out and spend 800$ (even if I get 500$ for this one used) it would entirely be worth it / entirely needed. However, that said, I may need it one day and surely then, I'll get one, if it's not worth waiting for a jump to the new AM5 socket when it's out. I think I'll wait this one out for a bit, but I'll be doubly sure to give folks here a good shot at grabbing a never-overclocked not-overheated 3950x with the box and sticker yet, if I do ever decide to get rid of mine. That said, if I were to assemble another spare machine around here I'd very likely spring for a 5000 series chip if at all possible. Evidently they will be flying off shelf like guinea pigs launched out of a converted potato launcher from everything I'm seeing performance-wise... so I'll save the early stock for those that genuinely want/need it... I can wait until spring, my wallet will thank me. Enjoy the 5900x though, seriously, it really should be a sight to be hold performance-wise. That 50~100$ price increase (seeing as there's no 5700x, the only 8 core is 5800x) is entirely worth the performance per-core bump, if it truly holds a 15~20% performance increase. Guess we'll know shortly. When you get it, fire up BeamNG Drive and play my Los Injurus city map or Roane County TN map for that game, and spawn lots of traffic (use the 'traffic debug' app to add about 15~20 traffic vehicles), hit GO and have a blast, that game is an absolute blast to play with a 3700x / 9700k or better. That's my 3950x's primary use here, and it's entirely worth it. I just truly hope the 5950x is that much better - about as much as I hope we have some reasonably priced Threadripper chips one day.

Reviews are UP in some countries. First review Poland : https://ithardware.pl/testyirecenzje/test_procesora_amd_ryzen_5_5600x_amd_utarlo_nosa_intelowi-13913.html

-Tj-:

So i checked local store with reasonable pricing and 5600x 330-335e 5800x 499-503e Both in stock, but they can keep it.

They're bit on expensive side, I'm getting 5900X probably by end of the year but first thing is get Asus RTX 3090 Strix OC hahaha From review they're worth it these money, I'm done with Intel, for first time in last couple of years I'm BSOD free, with my X99 and 5960x I got almost every single day at least one BSOD which had been related to board, went via few boards and CPU and RAM hahaha, I won't go back to Intel Thanks, Jura