Rumor: GeForce RTX 4070 may launch at a higher MSRP than expected, $749 for Founder and $799 For AIB

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Embra:

iphones are different. That's an illness.
Ouch... that was savage... but true (talking as an ex Apple reseller). 700€ is what I'm expecting, at minimum in my country, thare are still a lot of RTX 3070 to sell, and the average price is above 600€. This one will come more than 700€ or 800€ for the premium coolers.
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schmidtbag:

The 7000 series isn't really better, and you don't have to upgrade every year for prices like this to be a bitter pill to swallow. Even the 2080 was cheaper than this, which is not only a higher performance tier but it's not yet an obsolete GPU. People like myself have been holding off upgrading for a long while, waiting for something to be worth upgrading to. That isn't going to happen if prices are going up at the same rate as performance. And supposing this rumor is true, this implies AMD is going to charge only slightly less. Let's assume the 7800 is the competitor to the 4070, if these prices are true, we can expect AMD to sell for around $600. That's just dumb.
I thought he meant his next upgrade will be from the Nvidia RTX 7000 series, which will be quite a few years into the future since it's still the 4000 right now. So, if he keeps saving money until then, skipping two generations, in a certain sense you could say he can use the saved money to afford an expensive card.
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Could buy a switch oled and a quality 32" tele to play it on for that kinda money.
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cucaulay malkin:

Funny how people think one side of stupid is better than another one. Definition of blind fanboyism. 7900xtx costs more than 6900xt but now only matches a heavily cut ad103 on 4080, with more power. But the only reason to complain is always NVIDIA buyers somehow.
you are the fanboy and you aren't being honest -or you just accept what some basement dwelling bozo tells you on the interwebs. 7900xtx bests the 4080 on every parameter that counts - except your mythical love of RT (which is rarely used by ACTUAL gamers because of performance hit at every resolution). what you need is RL experience and learn some manners - you were insulting someone else on this thread pointlessly. you're like one of the villains in "Mean Girls" in that as long as you think of a denigrating response you think you're good. but you're an ass
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Kaarme:

I thought he meant his next upgrade will be from the Nvidia RTX 7000 series, which will be quite a few years into the future since it's still the 4000 right now. So, if he keeps saving money until then, skipping two generations, in a certain sense you could say he can use the saved money to afford an expensive card.
That doesn't make sense. You have to try atleast getting a midrange gpu from every generation in order to play newer games. There is alot of games he'll miss. Seeing how nvidia trying to force us paying high end prices for mid range gpus thats easier said than done it seems.
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if true that would be horrid price that 50$ less then TI, why bother at that point seeing even xx70ti horridle priced. if this hold true the xx60seires is gona be just as bad price wise
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DannyD:

Could buy a switch oled and a quality 32" tele to play it on for that kinda money.
Exactly. Would love to be able to afford 4k with a 32" OLED on a PC but it's expensive in comparison to a 4K capble console and a good OLED TV. I am amazed at the graphics quality of the little old XBoxS at just 1440p on a 55" Hisense 8 series quantum dot TV. It's impressive for a $300 box.
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GarrettL:

Exactly. Would love to be able to afford 4k with a 32" OLED on a PC but it's expensive in comparison to a 4K capble console and a good OLED TV. I am amazed at the graphics quality of the little old XBoxS at just 1440p on a 55" Hisense 8 series quantum dot TV. It's impressive for a $300 box.
you are so right - Sony is using this to pitch PS5/OLED combo in local market
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back on topic... given that Nvidia "found" $100 to drop the MSRP of the 4070ti, could it be this is all a tempest in a teapot from outdated info? this is all really strange, especially considering the glut of Ampere still on the market Nvidia has the right products but the wrong marketing strategy - unless the costs are somehow higher for them than AMD which imho, is a stretch given the size of Nvidia enabling greater economies of scale for commonly used components. Nvidia seems to think going the LVMH route is the answer in a unsettled economy, but c'mon. there aren't enough 40-65 y/o gamers (that can afford the prices) willing to spend that much. and the end of that road is the even more boutique market.
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if this all ploy to get people to buy the 30xx series, let aother people buy them i wont buy those cards 8gb is not enough imo and they horrible inefficient power wise. I mean they will probably runn cooler and quiter ( mostly do to side HSF which 75%? of actual size total card these days) then my 1070ti that "can" pull 200w under full stress. providing I un did my undervolt which wont happen cause i did it just shut card up cause it was horrible loud after going past 66c. 180tdp or less gpu that quiet and 2~3x perf of 1070ti is kind all i ask for so long as it can do 1440pm dlss would be great to have could not give damn about RT to much of performace hog make worth it to me. normal light methods look better then RT imo in less it game that lead with RT and normal methods where just give "just make it look passable" efforts. I think 2077 was one those game with normal lighting vs RT. part of it look amazing normal with lighting other parts just look truely bad to me. mean while RT look really nice providing you hard hardware push it on PC on console RT is in no way worth fps hit.
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Wow, I was expecting like maybe $600 - $650. $799.99... you can buy a 4070 Ti for that amount on Newegg right this minute. USD
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Nvidia has gone mad, i miss the days of X70 cards costing 330-400$ thats nearly 100% price increase in roughly 10 years i hope everyone opens their eyes and talks with their wallets and makes Nvidia sit on them till theyre forced to drop prices, they only do this because brain-dead ppl still buy em regardless of price.
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tunejunky:

back on topic... given that Nvidia "found" $100 to drop the MSRP of the 4070ti, could it be this is all a tempest in a teapot from outdated info? this is all really strange, especially considering the glut of Ampere still on the market Nvidia has the right products but the wrong marketing strategy - unless the costs are somehow higher for them than AMD which imho, is a stretch given the size of Nvidia enabling greater economies of scale for commonly used components. Nvidia seems to think going the LVMH route is the answer in a unsettled economy, but c'mon. there aren't enough 40-65 y/o gamers (that can afford the prices) willing to spend that much. and the end of that road is the even more boutique market.
What was that old marketing theory? Nvidia now leaked some crazy high numbers to a known rumour monger, making the consumers aghast. Then when Nvidia actually releases the card, they will announce a price lower than the rumoured number. People will be immensely relieved, not realising that the new number is only low compared to the one from the rumours, while objectively it's still very expensive.
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I mean, I really hope things turn back to anything we would consider "normal", having lived and known times before GPU mining, Covid, or a European major war. But... At this stage, I'm afraid they'll simply let PC gaming die and force everybody on those streaming slave boxes which are only a transitional technology before they put those things into the TVs themselves anyway.
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@tunejunky wrong again Kellyanne, https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/rtx-4080-owners-thread.445755/page-4#post-6093088 here's 4K rasterized only, newest results retested in March. https://www.computerbase.de/thema/grafikkarte/rangliste/#abschnitt_empfehlungen_fuer_ultra_hd I'm amazed how you can expect to be treated with manners if you always start with "you're a fanboy" and then proceed with your "alternative facts". I do treat all g3d members with respect, but you just don't deserve it if you always respond to me with that condescending tone. The fact is, you sound like you just repeat what adoredtv tells you to, don't do much research, yet know everything better. textbook definition of being a sciolist.
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Kaarme:

What was that old marketing theory? Nvidia now leaked some crazy high numbers to a known rumour monger, making the consumers aghast. Then when Nvidia actually releases the card, they will announce a price lower than the rumoured number. People will be immensely relieved, not realising that the new number is only low compared to the one from the rumours, while objectively it's still very expensive.
:p the same LVMH (Louis Vuitton/Moet/Hennessy) it just works better when more people are making money
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fwiw, i had to look up "adoredtv". RL experience is what i have (in overabundance as i'm getting up there in age). not to mention working for electronics manufacturers since 1985. and not to sneeze at i've owned every generation of GPU released to the gaming market. and all i get is some snot-nosed dweeb telling me i don't know how to boil an egg. some people need to get out more and learn what "professionalism" means
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What do I care about your age or what you did in 1985 or 1895, whatever. There's plenty of older folks that have twice the experience of yours and still can acknowledge what's presented to them in black and white even if that's not conventient for them to hear. What matters is facts, the more recent and obejctive the better, but if you're a self proclaimed professional they apparently don't, cause that requires reading and keeping up to date. a novel idea for someone who's stuck in their outdated beliefs like a mule.
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This is what you do.. Start buying a GPU that is going to last you for years. Stop buy the new shiny object every 6 months to a year. Keep it for a few years. If people stop buying them so often they will have to adjust their pricing scheme. Its beyond nuts that the 3080 is $1200-1500. Its almost a 70% increase. And this is all due to the manufactured pandemic. The rich got richer. Don't worry, there is going to be a new pandemic every 5 yrs or so, watch. Get ready for your jab my friends.
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Might as well just buy an XBSX + games + game pass for that price.