There is no official channel let alone any acknowledgement by Nvidia that people can return their cards. Furthermore, a lot of retailers are denying the refunds.

And it seems to be a bigger issue for those that don't own the cards, than it is for those that actually do own them.

But just purely looking at numbers is stupid. EDIT: Those who claim they bought the 970 based on the spec sheet... I'm sorry, you don't have the foggiest about how PC HW works. So I'll gladly disregard everything you say.

I bought my card based on it's performance. Not it's specs. Most of us learned years ago that specs are misleading unless you have indepth knowledge of exactly how the architecture works. (which 99.9% of consumers don't).

It doesn't matter. You should by law get what is advertised. I still love my NVidia but facts are facts. For example, if I want to get a microwave made in the USA but instead get a perfectly, equally, good microwave made in China I should be able to return it. Or if I want a car with a certain powerful engine, but the weight and aerodynamics of the car prevent it from fully taking advantage of that engine. So instead they put in a lower power engine that would perform the same, I should be able to return it. Is also seems like most people defending the card also own it. Buyers remorse maybe? 😛ipe:

It doesn't matter. You should by law get what is advertised. I still love my NVidia but facts are facts. For example, if I want to get a microwave made in the USA but instead get a perfectly, equally, good microwave made in China I should be able to return it. Or if I want a car with a certain powerful engine, but the weight and aerodynamics of the car prevent it from fully taking advantage of that engine. So instead they put in a lower power engine that would perform the same, I should be able to return it. Is also seems like most people defending the card also own it. Buyers remorse maybe? 😛ipe:

It's all about reputation and damage control. Just ask Brian Williams.

I was joking. I would get a 970 if I could. But that doesn't excuse anything. My examples are still valid. I would take the microwave from China and the car with the slower engine. But you have to be honest about what you are selling.

I recommended 3 separate people who have 1440p monitors to buy the cards. My reputation as someone who helps others build their rigs is put on the line when Nvidia falsely advertises its specs. I have a big stake in it without even owning it. Choosing a VRAM framebuffer based upon specs is ALL one can do. Its the same reason why people buy 3 Gig 580s, or 8 gig 290s- You know how games currently fill VRAM, but for future games, you are not sure. Hitting a VRAM wall when you have enough shading power is the worst: the game bemoes unplayable. Hence why you speculatively by into your cards future scaling buy getting the most VRAM you can. In the 970s case that is directly affected when .5 gigs of it is poor performing and you game at a higher resolution.

Most of the idiots on this forum bitching and moaning about some "memory issue" are running into GPU load issues and have no idea what they're talking about. They saw a thread about a "memory issue" and immediately jump on it as a reason for every single performance issue. Most are too stupid to realize that their GPU can't cope with the load.

I would jump onto a 290 and get better performance with a extra 50 pounds in my pocket. Silly if they don't. Let them stay loyal and next time they get screwed they cant complain.

since when is the 290 faster than the 970?