Radeon RX 570 and 580 Smile On Camera

#5413924

eclap

2017-03-30 00:13

I'm salivating all over the thought of having a 570 for myself. My freesync monitor needs this!

Why don't you just buy a 470 now?

#5413926

siriq

2017-03-30 00:14

More probable explanation is that you're using GPU-Z to measure your power consumption. Add some 30-40ish watts for memory interface and fan.

I don't use GPU-Z to measure anything.

#5413933

Srsbsns

2017-03-30 00:47

That 1340 MHz boost on the 580 just so happens to be the same boost as the high end RX 480 Nitro+. hmm

#5413941

DLD

2017-03-30 01:19

Exactly.

The clock increase is so tiny that it's pure comedy. It's still 480 with a different sticker, and that's it. At least my 390 has double the memory compared to 290.

Rebranded. Scam.

#5413957

icedman

2017-03-30 03:15

Other than a overclock this rebrand is just pointless

#5413966

Order_66

2017-03-30 03:41

I have an MSI RX-480 Gaming X 8G that does 1380/2100 all day long, and never exceeds 70°. So, what's the point in these cards??? If you want one, find yourself a good deal on a 480, and overclock to the 580 specifications, or more.

I was thinking the same thing, not much different than my already factory overclocked powercolors, 10mhz clock difference out of the box lol

#5413973

Loophole35

2017-03-30 04:03

So much hate on this forum, you beg AMD to compete with nvidia to bring down your prices and then you just complain and insult when they do. Reading these comments makes me wonder just how many here own nvidia stocks because the reactions given make little sense at all. So much hate and jealousy that AMD is moving forward, I think this is a great thing it puts more cards on sale lowering the prices for everyone, I dont see this as a re brand like the 1070 is just a rejected 1080

How exactly is a strait rebranding moving forward? Might want to look at the posts in here most very critical ones are coming from 480 owners.

#5413975

risc32

2017-03-30 04:08

Why don't you just buy a 470 now?

I second this. Bought an msi 470, and could not be happier.

#5413992

KissSh0t

2017-03-30 05:11

I second this. Bought an msi 470, and could not be happier.

Gotta agree here... really nice card for it's price range.

#5414008

koniu

2017-03-30 06:39

1400MHZ or even @ 1450MHz XFX RX 480 doing around 120 W (max) 😀 No need to worry about RX 580.

XFX cards don't count memory/fan/PCB power. They only report GPU power consumption. To have full card power consumption You need to add 40-50W for other than GPU parts of card. Still 170W for RX480 card overclocked to 1400MHz is good. I had for some time MSI Gaming X and at 1350MHz oc i had ~190W

#5414009

Agent-A01

2017-03-30 06:42

Top PEG placement has been preferred since before, PEG connectors where they were placed at the end often ran into issues of getting in the way of 2.5/3.5" drive bays. Of course it's not much of a problem with decent cases but have to take into account many PC cases in the mainstream market are midiATX so, placing the connectors at the end would be a limiting factor.

Maybe many years ago but the average mid atx case can easily fit a 10.5inch card. A short card such as RX480 should not have PEG slapped on the middle of the card.

#5414012

koniu

2017-03-30 06:50

I interested about that XTR chip. If this is bigger Polaris card with let say ~2600 cores, it will be probably Polaris based RX590. Above that we will have Vega line.

#5414057

rl66

2017-03-30 09:29

Also I'm tired of seeing PEG connectors flat in the middle on top of GPU. Put it on the side. Top PEG just ruins those trying to perfect cable management.

As it was used to be when it appear... Also people with SSF can't use those card because of that and have to get less powerfull GPU card despite the lengh aviable in their case (or let it always open, what i have already seen).

#5414061

rl66

2017-03-30 09:40

So much hate on this forum, you beg AMD to compete with nvidia to bring down your prices and then you just complain and insult when they do.

In some country AMD is most expensive than NVidia equivalent... the fight is no more on price but on quality. i have nothing against rebranding myself, every company do it. i think the "what you call hate" is due to AMD's comunication service, we are no more in the 00' (or 2k'): over hyping product with event that are not, keeping silent with issue, being over active on social network... it doesn't work anymore. AMD have good product right now and good drivers... just have to change this

#5414124

Evildead666

2017-03-30 13:05

How exactly is a strait rebranding moving forward? Might want to look at the posts in here most very critical ones are coming from 480 owners.

Its a process change, from LPE to LPP. Thats not just a rebrand. They should consume less overall power, and could overclock better. Might be cheaper to produce as well. We will see when the tests come out.

#5414126

Loophole35

2017-03-30 13:10

Its a process change, from LPE to LPP. Thats not just a rebrand. They should consume less overall power, and could overclock better. Might be cheaper to produce as well. We will see when the tests come out.

With the naming designation I doubt a price change. The switch from LPE to LPP is more a refinement than a process change. It may clock better but unless it clocks 150-250 MHz higher than previous gen it's kinda a moot point don't you think.

#5414133

Silva

2017-03-30 13:31

Why don't you just buy a 470 now?

I second this. Bought an msi 470, and could not be happier.

Because they are overpriced where I live. Up to 10 of March 2017 they costed above 260€. A shop now offers it for 220€. If they costed 220€ at launch I would have bought one, now I can just wait 1 or 2 more months for the 570. Why would I wait almost a year to buy the old one? For people complaining about rebranding: If you wanted to upgrade and are so upset about it, Vega is coming. Plus, Nvidia has allot to chose from.

#5414165

Amx85

2017-03-30 15:17

Sorry people, if comes with 8-pin power connector on reference, there´s no DIE shrink, just rebrand...

#5414168

Amx85

2017-03-30 15:19

Its a process change, from LPE to LPP. Thats not just a rebrand. They should consume less overall power, and could overclock better. Might be cheaper to produce as well. We will see when the tests come out.

If changes from LPE to LPP but if you think is coming with 8-pin power connector, they don´t improve power compsumition

#5414188

Denial

2017-03-30 16:16

If changes from LPE to LPP but if you think is coming with 8-pin power connector, they don´t improve power compsumition

The RX480 was already rubbing up against the 150w limit - hence the initial power criticisms, so even if it was the same process you'd want the extra connector anyway and do away with the software limitation AMD added for reference designs. Regardless, 14nmLPP is a slightly optimized 14nm that delivers either 15% faster switching speed or 15% lower power - AMD chose to up the frequency so power probably won't be much lower, if it's lower at all.