I've had my eyes on the mainstream processors since 2017. First 1600, then 2600 and now 3600. But this time 8c/16t. That and the decline on memory prices, it's time to retire my old 2500k. Now, waiting for official release and review numbers to think about the value of each skew, but looking forward for the 3600 for now.

If my new favorite racing-sim has proven anything, is that it's extremely CPU dependent and my i5 needs replacing, but I don't know if I need 12c/24t for that since I can get away with an overclock. However I'm definitely going to pick up one of them at launch and I'm looking at the 3600X (8c/16t), which seems plentiful for my needs; paired with a Navi 7nm GPU and the streets will soon be mine!

user1:

Man if march really is inital launch, that's worst case for intel, insufficent 14nm capacity + the lack of 10nm chips just leaves intel basically frozen, unable to react, cant cut prices, and cant produce new products in any volume. What i would give to see the faces of intel's upper management if they do a surprise launch.

It could very well be a March reveal. With Cascade Lake reportedly coming out soon in April, AMD may be wanting to be the one who upstages for once and gives Intel a taste of their own medicine. And why not? Intel has been trying to upstage Ryzen desperately for the last two years and it has been excruciating to watch. Look no further than under "G" for glue and "C" for chiller for just a few examples of their tactics. Most recently, in fact, Intel did an Architecture Day event shortly after AMD's EPYC Rome reveal as if to try to steal some thunder. Besides, if Zen 2 really is all it is cracked up to be after they have endured all of this abuse from Intel, why not lay down the Mjolnir with its full force and fury right before Intel even has a chance to answer? I would love to see AMD upstage Intel for once especially when they may very well finally have that killer product that has no drawbacks to speak of (as fast or faster single-threaded performance in particular).

hehe as much as I'd love to see AMD stomping Intel, neither will that happen, nor do I think that AMD behaves like they used to these days. If they don't overhype their own products (as in Vega vs "poor Volta"), and play it smart, they could easily be more successful than to aim all their guns at Intel and fire only once...

They definitely don't have to fire once. All I am saying is if they have a product that truly outperforms Intel on all counts (single and multithreaded performance, power and price), showcasing it as the champion that it is is the best thing to do. For example, if you have a star basketball team who is at the season finals and you know for certain your team can easily win by 50 at the final deciding game, are you going to tell them to only win by 10 because that would insult the other team and their fans? That is the logic you are insinuating and that is not wise. Now, if Intel, for example, is more competitive again 12 months from now and AMD does not have quite the advantage then, then I would agree they should act less braggadocio. However, if they have all the advantage, it is highly advisable for them to press their attack as hard and as swift as possible while they still have this narrow window of opportunity. In AMD's case, pressing hard and swift means chipping away at and chomping up a larger chunk or portion of Intel's market share pie. It would only make sense to take as much as they can while they still can since this sort of situation does not happen everyday and every dollar in the bank will serve them well when Intel counters and they most assuredly will. The lesson to be learned here: retreat and reclusiveness when your enemy is down is a foolhardy tactic when you have the upperhand because you are, in fact, supposed to push the offensive the most when their defenses are crumbling.

As for Vega, it never had what it takes to win so it was foolish to market it as a winner against their competitor. I am not saying to market a poor product as a winner but a winning product as a winner. Poor Vega is a classic example of unsubstantiated trash talk which is what desperate marketing teams often do when they have a weak, noncompetitive product on their hands. Zen 2, on the other hand, is likely going to win on all counts (including finally single-threaded performance) so marketing it as the #1 desktop consumer CPU in the world is precisely what AMD should be doing as soon as humanly possible, especially when Intel's defenses are down.

Ryzen offered much more for the same money right from the beginning. After all, its initial competitor was the "we have perfect trust in" Kaby Lake, which Intel indeed had so perfect trust in that they made it obsolete in just half a year. But yes, AMD really could use a CPU that would compete head-to-head with Intel also in the game related charts. Right now it's still mainly different Intel CPUs trying to beat each other, with AMD's offerings behind, not that much, but statistically clearly significantly.

Venix:

i am so drooling over the 3600 !

Me too!

32MB of L3 cache.... jesus

Seems like 2019 would be an amazing year for a new build...... Mining craze is over, RAM & NAND prices are much lower and ofc Zen 2.

HardwareCaps:

32MB of L3 cache.... jesus

If someone could make win 98 port to run only on CPU memory- lol 🙂. My Pentium 1 100Mhz had only 24MB.

ivan:

INTEL right now like [SPOILER] https://i.giphy.com/media/LRVnPYqM8DLag/giphy.webp [/SPOILER]

Nah I wouldn't be so worried, they sit on a massive amount of cash. they literally just tried to buy Mellanox for billions of dollars. the most profitable market for them is the server/enterprise market in which clients do not change platforms frequently(obvious to why).

The 3700x looks like a worthy upgrade for my 8700K. Gonna buy a 3080 RTX or whatever AMD has to compete with that, and if it's bottlenecked hard, gonna consider one of these CPUs for sure.

I am pretty sure Intel knows what is coming far in advanced. AMD is going to have an exciting lineup.

Embra:

I am pretty sure Intel knows what is coming far in advanced. AMD is going to have an exciting lineup.

This. I'm fairly competitors got spies in both camps, always. And if not there, they have them at the fabricators.

If these leaks turn out to be true then I will have no doubt to believe that AMD will stand side by side with Intel on the performance side of things. Man that Ryzen 3700X will no doubt ve the next big thing for gamers if it’s the same price as the 2700X. There will be no reason then to buy Intel unless you are obviously a die hard Intel fan and like getting screwed over. I just hope all these rumors turn out to be true. This might just be a replacement for my trusty i7 6700K.

HardwareCaps:

Seems like 2019 could be an amazing year for a new build...... Mining craze is over, RAM & NAND prices are much lower and ofc Zen 2.

Fixed. I do agree tho and hope it is. :P

HWgeek:

I also think the ANN will be before computex, already most of the boards got new bios with Ryzen 3000 support, so no way they released the bios update more then 2 month ahead. Surprise ANN incoming!

Could well be...noticed that MSI for the equivalent x470 mboard model I have (x370) have already placed a new *official* bios for the x470 version that says, "...to support new AMD processors"...or something very close to that. x370 support always comes later--but I think I'll be moving to a new mboard when I go to the 3000 cpu so I'm not really concerned with x370 mboard support looking ahead. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC

On ASUS even some A320 got the new bios with upcoming cpu's support.

labidas:

imo the 3300 is the king here. 6 cores / 12 threades for ~>150$!!! Run that badboy at 4,5~5ghz. Plenty for gaming.

If those prices are $, you aren't kidding! That's $40 less than I paid for my R5 1600 which overclocks to a max of 3.8Ghz, on just a hair over stock voltage--100% reliable. I'd be happy getting just 4-4.1 GHz on all six cores with the 3300...! Add that to a ~20% IPC improvement--and--whew, AMD is going to be tougher for Intel than the company has ever been! If these prices are right, AMD will gain massive market share quickly. Intel FABs seem to be dropping far behind the independent FABs, apparently. That's what AMD realized years ago--when it sold its FABs to the Global Foundries folks--having your own FABs can sometimes be a real drag--as well as an advantage.