Nvidia Releases Quadro M6000 and it has 24GB vram

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And you have every right to. But as stated before, articles like this don't cater to this website's demographic, and if server hardware is going to be mentioned, why is there so much left out? If this hardware was so relevant to Guru3D's readers, why do you think these companies don't send out review samples here? There are other websites I go to (including ones that review gaming hardware) with a smaller user-base that do get server-class review samples. It's not my website, so obviously I can't dictate what should go here. Though I too enjoy hearing about stuff like this, it isn't why I or others come here. Meanwhile, you don't go to serverwatch.com to get news about the latest Radeons and Celerons, because whether that interests you or not, that's not why you're there. Interesting isn't always relevant.
It's called "GURU3D". Massive emphasis on "3D". This might not be relevant to most of us, but, it does keep us up-to-date in the world of graphics cards. Sli and Crossfire also have a small user-base, but, no-one is saying get rid of sli/xfire scores in benchmarks.
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It's called "GURU3D". Massive emphasis on "3D". This might not be relevant to most of us, but, it does keep us up-to-date in the world of graphics cards.
Exactly my point... this GPU is designed for GPGPU tasks, not 3D. Before jumping to conclusions, yes, I'm aware this can do 3D rendering with flying colors, but my point is that's not it's primary intention. Just because it's a graphics card with display connectors, that doesn't mean it is intended to do 3D rendering. Besides, I'm not aware of a single workstation task that would saturate all 24GB without the GPU core being a bottleneck.
Sli and Crossfire also have a small user-base, but, no-one is saying get rid of sli/xfire scores in benchmarks.
But SLi and Crossfire cater to gamers and the demographic of this website, whether people want to do those setups or not. There is enough interest for multi-GPU benchmarks that Guru3D is sent additional review samples to do them.
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One of the reasons I'm in Guru3D is articles like this and weird audio card reviews. Because you don't like something, it doesn't mean that the rest of us don't appreciate it. Furthermore, Hilbert has demographic data for the tags he posts for SURE (if you don't Hilbert, I'll do it, you can pay me in hardware 😀 ), so I bet he knows what he's doing.
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Exactly my point... this GPU is designed for GPGPU tasks, not 3D. Before jumping to conclusions, yes, I'm aware this can do 3D rendering with flying colors, but my point is that's not it's primary intention.
But it is! Or you think that only number crunchers can fill 24GB? Its the other way around: Tesla which is smaller part of Nvidia's pro business is GPGPU only, and it does not necessarily come with display output. GK210 has specifically been made for Teslas, because they need lots of DP. With Quadros there is less emphasis on DP - GK110/210 have not even been used in Quadros. Quadro covers CAD, CGI and visualization segment, and is certified for such applications. Would it be great to run GPGPU on this M6000 wiht 24GB - I bet it would.
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Listen, I can understand your primary focus for Guru3D to be in the realm of the gaming community / consumer PC related matters. Professional graphics cards are however a close fit + we always have reported about these product. I mean look in the NV forums and see how much Quadro stuff is going on. So if see a new GM200 GPU Pro based product released AND is has 24GB of graphics memory it invokes at least my interest, and if that happens I know it will for many others as well. Now not all news items will be catered to your liking, well sorry buddy. But in this case it sure is news-worthy and relevant (just maybe not for you). Secondly if I want to post about is, I sure as heck will. I'll up that a notch -- if I feel I wanted to write a Batman vs Superman movie review, I still would. Please do not try and enforce and restrict me on what I deem is a proper news-item. We've reported any FirePro or Quadro release in the past, we're not stopping now. This is a total non-discussion for me tbh. I am not sure why ever the smallest things get so complicated and become a weird discussion these days -- if you do not want to read about a news-item .. just don't read it ? But that'll be the end of this discussion mmmmkay ? Btw and if I do write that Batman vs Superman movie review, then you may PM me personally and yell at me 😉
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One of the reasons I'm in Guru3D is articles like this and weird audio card reviews. Because you don't like something, it doesn't mean that the rest of us don't appreciate it. Furthermore, Hilbert has demographic data for the tags he posts for SURE (if you don't Hilbert, I'll do it, you can pay me in hardware 😀 ), so I bet he knows what he's doing.
I can't believe it takes this much effort to make a point... * A demographic isn't a requirement. Just because this website caters to PC enthusiasts, that doesn't mean people who visit this site are only interested in high-end PCs. You're allowed to like other things. But just because you like something, it doesn't mean the majority of everyone else shares or understands the same interest. * I never said I disliked the article. In fact, I already said I do like it. But just because I like something, that doesn't mean it belongs here. I like pizza too, but that doesn't mean there should be articles here about that. Liking something isn't enough. Being a piece of computer hardware isn't enough either. * Let's assume you're right that Hilbert does have demographic data, and that data suggests there are people who are interested in server hardware. Why is he not sent review samples, why does he not perform benchmarks on server software, and why is he not writing more articles about other server products? As I stated before, there are more interesting things than this GPU. @Noisiv: Again, I'm aware that even this 24GB Quadro can be used for workstations. But seriously - list one application that will utilize close to, if not all 24GB without being bottlenecked by the GPU core. Just 1 application.
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Hilbert: I understand the need for professional cards. I'm not disputing those. I'm talking enterprise stuff. This GPU is kind of in between. I think there should be more articles on workstation GPUs This stuff DOES interest me; I DO like reading about it. I said earlier that I am in no position to dictate how this website should be run. This shouldn't even be a debate. The matter is simple - there are people who don't understand why this GPU exists, because it isn't catered to them. To me, it doesn't make sense to post about something some may think is "stupid". I think the product is great, but my minority opinion doesn't matter.
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@Noisiv: Again, I'm aware that even this 24GB Quadro can be used for workstations. But seriously - list one application that will utilize close to, if not all 24GB without being bottlenecked by the GPU core. Just 1 application.
Autocad, Octane, Maya... theF do I know. And anyone who does not want to fret about his data size - does not have to! Else why bother releasing it and using Quadro trademark, instead of Tesla? You think NV does not know their demographics too
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Hilbert: I understand the need for professional cards. I'm not disputing those. I'm talking enterprise stuff. This GPU is kind of in between. I think there should be more articles on workstation GPUs This stuff DOES interest me; I DO like reading about it. I said earlier that I am in no position to dictate how this website should be run. This shouldn't even be a debate. The matter is simple - there are people who don't understand why this GPU exists, because it isn't catered to them. To me, it doesn't make sense to post about something some may think is "stupid". I think the product is great, but my minority opinion doesn't matter.
It's a news item of a passingly interesting product. If Intel has 100 core server cpu ready would you say that that isn't news worthy or deserving of a post/mention? Just because it's a server component? What about the technical milestone achieved? This news item has more views than dx12 adoption post.
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Autocad, Octane, Maya... theF do I know. And anyone who does not want to fret about his data size - does not have to!
So you're telling me those applications will breach 12GB and will not be bottlenecked by the core?
Else why bother releasing it and using Quadro trademark, instead of Tesla? You think NV does not know their demographics too
FirePro is a workstation series too, but is frequently used in server farms. http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/72761/en-us Notice how the Quadro drivers are crammed together with Tesla? Notice how it's compatibility is only listed for Windows Server? But as you're aware, that doesn't mean Quadro is for servers-only.
It's a news item of a passingly interesting product. If Intel has 100 core server cpu ready would you say that that isn't news worthy or deserving of a post/mention?
Funny you should mention that. There is a 72-core Intel server processor, which to my recollection was not posted here. That's a big deal. But this comes back to a point I made earlier - there are other CPUs that have already existed for years that would compete with even a 100-core Intel. So why are those not reported on? I'm not trying to troll or be antagonistic here, but there are so many logical holes.
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So, if you were to choose the next news item what would it be?
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Sheesh this thread became a cluster. All I have to say is Hilbert, keep up the enterprise hardware posts! I work in the "Corporate IT" field, and on a daily I deal with half the equipment I see in the news (from an enterprise hardware standpoint) It lets me know what new things are coming down the pipe, it also intrigues me and makes me want to do even more research than what I read on this site. So in saying all of that, I thoroughly enjoy your "enterprise hardware" post's! Keep up the good work! 😀
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So you're telling me those applications will breach 12GB and will not be bottlenecked by the core?
No, im telling you it's the natural progression. I am telling you that it will be bottlenecked by the core. BT by core is a good thing. BT by VRAM means losing performance due to lack of cheapest component. Are you telling me nothing but GPGPU can breach 12GB? And not be bottle... If I am wrong, you end up with unused VRAM; if you're wrong you end up ****ed ! K1200 is more than 6 times slower than our M6000 24GB, yet it comes with 4GB <-- bottlenecked by core? I wouldn't as much as look at 12GB version, with 24GB on the market. One can just focus on his work and not worry about VRAM.
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Listen, I can understand your primary focus for Guru3D to be in the realm of the gaming community / consumer PC related matters. Professional graphics cards are however a close fit + we always have reported about these product. I mean look in the NV forums and see how much Quadro stuff is going on. So if see a new GM200 GPU Pro based product released AND is has 24GB of graphics memory it invokes at least my interest, and if that happens I know it will for many others as well. Now not all news items will be catered to your liking, well sorry buddy. But in this case it sure is news-worthy and relevant (just maybe not for you). Secondly if I want to post about is, I sure as heck will. I'll up that a notch -- if I feel I wanted to write a Batman vs Superman movie review, I still would. Please do not try and enforce and restrict me on what I deem is a proper news-item. We've reported any FirePro or Quadro release in the past, we're not stopping now. This is a total non-discussion for me tbh. I am not sure why ever the smallest things get so complicated and become a weird discussion these days -- if you do not want to read about a news-item .. just don't read it ? But that'll be the end of this discussion mmmmkay ? Btw and if I do write that Batman vs Superman movie review, then you may PM me personally and yell at me 😉
Your ableism and non-checked privilege against innocent genderqueer readers is noted. One day the earth will breath free of the oppression of the white benchmarking man and all things will be escalated until total equality comes and all the benchmark results are the same. Commentophobes will be gone for good. [spoiler]:D[/spoiler]
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Okay now everyone, I do believe Hilbert asked everyone to stop with the discussion.
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you mean 11.5gb. Lol
Rofl
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I just want that new 374.52 driver! 🤓
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The only reason this qualifies as a workstation GPU is because it has display connectors. Otherwise, it is pretty much a server GPU, because it isn't cost effective for workstation tasks. You don't need 24GB for photos, but you do need that much when handling large databases or scientific equations. The name "Quadro" is typically associated for workstations, but it is used in servers too. Same goes for names like "Xeon" or "FirePro".
https://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-desktop-gpus.html And it really depends on what kind of workstation photo task that you use it for, the small Quadro's don't cut it for professional designers, although most will be happy with the M4000, unless the programs they use allows midrange and up consumer cards to handle it, but then again those don't come with a business warranty contract. K series are rather unimpressive for heavy photshop and illustrator task.
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I just want that new 374.52 driver! 🤓
They shall have their riot.