Next Generation NVIDIA Ampere reportedly to offer 50% more perf at half the power
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bernek
IchimA
I know that man ! That's why I said " a men can dream " thing is I am fed up with this Nvidia prices
Carfax
Good. Finally I can upgrade!
Denial
Astyanax
I'm looking at this as an increase in SM counts primarily at similar clocks.
25% more SM's could bring around 50-70% improvements in both Traditional raster and Hybrid Raytraded totals,
This brings SM's up from 48 on the TU104 to 60 on GA104 and 72 on TU102 to 90 on GA102.
3840 and 5760 Shaders
60 and 90 RT cores
480 and 720 Tensore cores
96 and 128 Rops
240 and 360 TMU's.
nvidia has just about always held massive shader count increases for improved nodes.
warlord
Astyanax
i've never commented on RDNA2,
RDNA had a horrible launch and so far borderline terrible drivers, the architecture itself is a significant improvement over GCN - on paper resolving a number of issues that have been covered by Scali and other developers over the years in the parts of the chip that should have scaled and operated in parallel.
pegasus1
Robbo9999
Ok, well I think I'd rather have 80% more performance at the same power consumption rather than 50% more performance at half the power consumption! I hope they still produce products which hit the same wattage targets of our current cards whilst just jacking up the performance - I'm not interested in seeing 150W flagship cards at 50% more performance when they could use up the rest of that power budget up to say 300W to deliver more performance. We don't have issues with keeping GPUs cool in PC's so there'd be no point to just release cards at half the power consumption....perhaps they don't mean that...but either way you get what I mean - let's not leave performance on the table for the sake of power consumption.
Kaerar
50% more with 50% less power, cool. Now in what circumstances and with what hardware?? Far too vague and more spin from Nvidia. Consdering Jenson ragged on the next gen consoles because a 2080Ti would shit all over them, I'm not expecting much in the way of logic from Nvidia at the moment.
pegasus1
I wish they get rid of power draw limitations, my 1080Ti @2050mhz never goes over 50C, its so limited by what its allowed to draw of the PCIe port.
Robbo9999
H83
Fediuld
Silva
Is this Nvidia acknowledging Navi potential to get to 2080Ti levels of performance? If so, that more than justifies the 50% more performance claims: they want to keep the crown and crush AMD, again.
Although we know that +500 price point is mostly out of reach for the average consumer, mindshare plays an important role.
Let's hope AMD releases RDNA2 on pair of those Ampere.
Denial
ruthan
My ears and passive PSU will love it.
bernek
Jayp
I don't think Nvidia will disappoint on 7 nm. Should be some big ray tracing gains I imagine. I think RTX performance of the 2080 Ti could possibly be found on closer-to-the-lower-end products like 60 and 70 series.
Mesab67
Of course, from past bullsh#t Nvidia marketing, a 'performance' description is never limited to rasterisation - expect RT cores etc to make up the bulk of this.
The big, and only, issue for the vast percentage of consumers is pricing (/performance): Ngreedia has, unfortunately, already raised that bar to pathetic levels (particularly for the 1080/Ti owners) using multiple broken RTX promises. While I'm sure AMD's rDNA2 will ultimately be capable of delivering 2080Ti performance at least, and be 'priced aggressively', I think it's unlikely they'll give up on this pricing opportunity though I might be wrong, since...
Competition is good 🙂 AMD have already proven with Intel - literally forcing Intel to slash current and future pricing by up to half. Can AMD do the same with Nvidia? rDNA2's much larger die size puts it out of any wafer/yield comparison with Zen2(3...4...) and, we have significant power issues. Interesting times ahead.