The MSI GeForce RTX 3080 SUPRIM X 10G is priced 859,90 € in Portugal - price includes VAT (23%): https://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/placas-graficas/cat-nvidia/grafica-msi-geforce-rtx-3080-suprim-x-10g-4719072762537

If my math is correct with the power limit at 116% that would put the power draw up to 445W holy sh!t.

[QUOTE= WITCHER 29 SAID: My 1080 ti is getting obsolete... Everyday another card introduction. More to confuse me. I hope the supply or self-imposed shortage will last well into 2021. This will give many plenty of time in getting their RTX 2080ti or 1080ti's sold at perhaps a decent price? That is of course before the (pricing) bottom falls out for all previous 10/20 series cards in general. Once the supply issues are solved and with especially the gamers then snapping up readily available 'base 3080's' at around USD$500, I wonder what used 2080ti's will drop down to? For a man like me working at Walmart driving a forklift on the third shift probably quite affordable. Of course I still do not get where the people get all that money from to buy luxury hardware items like this? Come and see me sometime at Walmart where reality hits the pavement day in and day out! But we just gotten in a CD stack of "De Toppers" 2013 concert with Engelbert Humperdink, naturally on sale and I am loving it.

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If my math is correct with the power limit at 116% that would put the power draw up to 445W holy sh!t.

It is big number. But from my experience, it is better to have bigger power limit headroom. Because there are 2 ways to limit cards, performance. 1) Clock limiting = Stable peak clock = stable performance across multitude workloads. 2) Power limiting = Stable peak power draw = unstable performance across multiple workloads as different workloads result in different power draw. I leave power limit higher than necessary even when I undervolt.

Got to say i don't appreciate MSI missleading their customers with their initial batch of Gaming X trio featuring 3x8 pins power input and barely drawing 390W given BIOS restrictions. The 3090 Gaming X Trio might not handle 490-500W and extreme overclocks as well as the Suprim does, but it can clearly draw 460W while remaining under 70°C in a closed case. Been playing RDR2 for 40Hours+ just like that. The Gaming X trio deserved higher power limit on BIOS. /rant