More AAA titles to support AMDs Mantle ?

#4869092

Rich_Guy

2014-07-09 17:02

Mantle isn't Dx12, as Dx12 will not be patched into games, 6+ months after they are released. :P

#4869095

Denial

2014-07-09 17:04

Mantle isn't Dx12, as Dx12 will not be patched into games, 6+ months after they are released. :P

It can be? DX11 was ported back in to various games via patches -- especially MMO's and stuff.

#4869098

WhiteLightning

Moderator

2014-07-09 17:06

Mantle isn't Dx12, as Dx12 will not be patched into games, 6+ months after they are released. :P

Remember crysis 2 ? could happen to crysis 4 again :P

#4869109

Lane

2014-07-09 17:17

Well i dont know if GTA5 will get Mantle or not.. ( i dont think it is an Gamework games, maybe Nvidia TWIMTP game but not gamework ( aka it will not use gamework outside maybe TXAA ( who is part of gamework now, but its a pure standalone method ). ( And again, im not even sure about the Nvidia "sponsoring" on this game ). First because the game is allready out (for console ), and they will not change everything in the engine now for add effects or changes features for using Gamework library... Now for COD or maybe Rockstar, i know many studio have allready start to explore and work with mantle, that dont mean they will include it in the game who are at work and will be released soon... Its not because they are in partnership today with nvidia for this titles they will be for the next ones. Its funny because if really it is hard to optimize games running gamework on AMD gpus ( both on game developpers and driver side ), Mantle could be a good solution offered by the developpers.

#4869111

Fender178

2014-07-09 17:18

Mantle isn't Dx12, as Dx12 will not be patched into games, 6+ months after they are released. :P

Um Look at World of Warcraft with DX11. That game was several years old when Dx11 got patched into the game.

#4869118

pterois

2014-07-09 17:30

Supporting Mantle doesn't mean that they won't support GameWorks excluding of course the Dice/Frostbyte 3 titles and AMD partnerships. No indication though that the implementation of Mantle will provide any visual enhancements apart from performance increases.

#4869126

Lane

2014-07-09 17:35

Um Look at World of Warcraft with DX11. That game was several years old when Dx11 got patched into the game.

Yes some titles have been patched, its normal for a MMO with the engine who evolves and when the game is still having update and addon. With a new Addon ( full new version of the game ), they have revisit it with DX11 graphics and code features. ... now i dont think you will see a COD ghost patched to DX12 or actual 2013-2014 games patchted. when they will release the follow up, or studio developpers start to massively patch their 3 old years games with DX12. ( they will release new games at this time ).. Its allready hard they support again the games with patch 1 year after, so modifiy the game and use developpers time and money for support new DirectX version many years then lol. But this is exactly the same with Mantle, BF4 and Thief was an exception because the game have a timeline for release and Mantle was still at work at this time. ( it is still today in Beta version )... Mostly because the want to start developp with Mantle have come late after the developpement of both games have started. The patch for BF4 have come 3 month after the launch and it was a question of 1 month or some week after the release for Thief.

#4869136

Fender178

2014-07-09 17:43

Yes some titles have been patched, its normal for a MMO with the engine who evolves and when the game is still having update and addon. With a new Addon ( full new version of the game ), they have revisit it with DX11 graphics and code features. ... now i dont think you will see a COD ghost patched to DX12 or actual 2013-2014 games patchted. when they will release the follow up, or studio developpers start to massively patch their 3 old years games with DX12. ( they will release new games at this time ).. Its allready hard they support again the games with patch 1 year after, so modifiy the game and use developpers time and money for support new DirectX version many years then lol.

Very true. I agree I don't think it is worth the developer's time to patch in a new version of DX since they could be working on a new game.

#4869154

Desprado

2014-07-09 18:09

4 titles are totally BS Sims 4(Should be announced before Bf4 hardline and Dragon age because this game is releasing before that) Dying light conformed Nvidia game work title which is state in Nvidia website.(even of Forbes it is mentioned this game is sponsored by Nvidia). GTA V which also state in Nvidia website COD AF big no and it wont happen ever not even in dreams. That chart is totally BS and AMD did not announce any on there upcoming mentle support games.

#4869157

Asgardi

2014-07-09 18:12

Well...

You should know that Mantle=DX12 and so far we are going to make due with what we have ,so don't feel so sad if AMD users get dx12 before Nvidia.

If nVidia can get 10% more performance out of their cards, or can simply release 10% faster models than AMD, that doesnt matter much right? I mean, at least nVidia is money-making company unlike AMD so they have something there to fight back until DX12 is out. Anyway, I dont really care what graphics cards people use. I care about technology and Mantle has sure pushed gaming forward on PC, at least a bit.

#4869182

Equinoxe

2014-07-09 18:42

pls go to ign comment section and post crap

Accept it as it is. Once DirectX 12 is released, it will be the end of mantle.

#4869186

edilsonj

2014-07-09 18:44

I can't find GTA 5 on the Geforce site and no mention whatsoever of Gameworks in the GTA 5 PC announcement. It's definitely possible it will be a Gameworks title but nothing official thus far. And neither is this Mantle games list by the way. I really can't imagine Rockstar supporting AMD and Mantle. COD Ghosts was a Gameworks game indeed but I don't see how that means AW will be too. Again, they are not PC focused at all so I have trouble believing they would bother with Mantle. It's nice to dream though.

Bioshock 1 and 2 has nVidia logo, but Bioshock Infinite is Gaming Evolved. Crysis case too.

#4869189

biggyca

2014-07-09 18:48

Also write down the new Hitman. I'm pretty sure it will use Mantle because of Square Enix.

#4869211

BABA-The Hacker

2014-07-09 19:20

Supported on launch or a patch that comes 6 months after?

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#4869229

kd7

2014-07-09 19:47

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#4869233

Solfaur

2014-07-09 19:53

and WATCH DOGS....?? ------------------------------------------ Gaming Industry there are only 2 of them (nonetheless 3_)..... ------------------------------------------ Remember: any high techs....are just only like consumers in this world.... ------------------------------------------ There are things that we had never been taught......where we are only DOGS WATCHING and concluding...... where once it was NVidia then ATI...then ATI followed by AMD.......... ------------------------------------------ and yes to compromise..... the creator gave us gaming gears...play it or not..... and it's meant to be played! ------------------------------------------

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#4869237

pterois

2014-07-09 19:57

BF HL has mantle support in the BETA that just happened. As mantle is now fully integrated into Frostbite engine. So any upcoming frostbite games will have the mantle option at launch. This means the next Need For Speed, FIFA, Dragon Age, Battlefield Hardline, Battlfield 5, etc will have mantle support out of the gate. That is a bigger deal than people think, seen as Frostbite is arguably one of the best engines out there, and EA are one of if not the biggest game publisher in the industry.

Fifa is using Ignite not Frostbyte as are most EA sports titles. True though that Frostbyte 3 is an amazing engine and having mantle built in is pretty awesome.

#4869256

Noisiv

2014-07-09 20:14

Well at least some of this list is true... Can you imagine Mantle and Gameworks in the same game - say GTA? With Gameworks beautifying AMD rendering, and Mantle basically giving NV a middle finger :banana: EDIT: Actually this is already happening in BF4, but with only small portions of GW being included.

#4869324

kaz050

2014-07-09 21:34

what's up with the dx12?? ive yet to see anything out of the world that shocks me with dx11.x all i see is this and that why cant we all just be happy sounds like a intel/amd war just like x1 and ps4 in the end we are all gamers.

#4869355

ApexiTT

2014-07-09 22:12

Well I think alot of you are forgetting that all the games being developed cross platform are being developed on AMD GPU/CPUs? I highly doubt that Mantle is going away considering AMD is in every Console and Mantle is also compatible with the Consoles.