Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor GeForce GTX 970 VRAM stress test
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Fox2232
Undying
From best card in last few years to scandal. Worst GPU configuration ever, this should've been 3.5gb card without 0.5gb slow ram, it only makes things worse.
Like HH said, lets hope we never see this crap again. π
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
omnimodis78
"After some internal testing here over the weekend we could quite honestly really reproduce stutters or weird issues other than the normal stuff once you run out of graphics memory."
So you could or couldn't? The way that sentence is put together implies that you couldn't reproduce stutters or weird issues. Please fix that if you meant to write couldn't
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
could not, let me look that up.
Primey0
Mineria
rl66
Agent-A01
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Chaps, over in the VRAM allocation thread Guys, I've got somebody from Nvidia EU who will join up in that thread today.
The goal is to answer your questions and concerns, feel free to vent .. but do keep your comments respectable. Most of you have shown exemplary behavior and I respect that very much.
MrBenB is the verified representative from Nvidia.
omnimodis78
I have no issues with any of this. My 970 is getting better with each driver release and I thoroughly enjoy gaming with it. I do have one question though, you write that "...it should have been called a 3.5 GB card with a 512MB L3 GDDR5 cache buffer." Is this accurate? Correct me if I'm totally off the mark, but isn't this 512 not being accessed at all until the 3.5 GB point is reached, whereas the L3 cache would always be part of the overall equation, that is, the entire memory package would have access to the L3, but in this case, it doesn't. Am I right or not?
Solfaur
Well, since there has been more than enough trolling and flaming going on, I'll just say this: regardless of how nvidia handled it (and I agree with Hilbert, they did a poor job), the 970 is still the same card that got praised all over (including by me) 3-4 months ago.
Nothing changed, except the fact that we now know more of the card, from an engineering point of view. I still think it's a GREAT bang for the buck, because I genuinely am satisfied by the perfomance for the money I payed for them. I passed 3.5GB vram in several games since I play at 1440p with at least 2xMSAA and never have I encountered these issues.
Agent-A01
GoldenTiger
Your testing is only showing you as using ~3.6gb of VRAM... this means that only a tiny fraction of the data being accessed would ever even be in the slow segment, and less frequently, compared to testing with more of the card's full capacity being in use. Having run a 4K native setup with SLI GTX 970 cards, my own experiences match up with PC Game Hardware's testing (http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-GTX-970-Grafikkarte-259503/Specials/zu-wenig-VRAM-1149056/) that shows many and frequent frametime spikes, where it was very obviously stuttering and didn't look smooth even with framerates remaining at 60+ the whole time in various games from BF4 to Shadow of Mordor and others.
I think the testing you've done, while appreciated, isn't representative of the issue at play here due to only barely going above the 3.5GB mark.
ivymike10mt
CK the Greek
HunnoPT
GTX 970 technically has fewer ROPs than the GTX 980 as well as less than the full 2MB cache of its older brother. Basically, the GTX 970 only has 56 ROPs and about 1.7MB of L2 cache available to it. It can still hit the theoretical peak bandwidth of 224 GB/s but that is only while using both blocks of memory .
Advertise to be 4Gbs at full bandwitch, when its 3.5GB at high bandwitch and 0.5GB low bandwitch , advertise to be a 384 bit when in fact its a 224bit one , the ROPS to be 64 , when they are 56 etc..
And still people saying , its ok! It performs OK! Its like saying i had 500 bucks in my pocket, then i got robbed, but they only robbed me 100 bucks, so its OK!
I really hope that kind of attitude is not adopted by the massives, otherwise in the future, they will do the same thing, because ...its OK!
Denial
Loophole35
Denial