thanks Obama.

Developers still learning and implementing DX11. Developers are humans too, they need time to learn new DX and its new features. And they have to keep deadlines... Did you heard of Mantle? I think you would love Mantle, since it addresses most of those issues you just mentioned.

Yep, definitely heard of Mantle! It's a good thing for AMD users, especially if they have poor CPUs. I can see it increasing the cost of developing games though, which is not a good thing. I suppose the good thing about DirectX is that is from a third party, and an API that both teams support, I think Microsoft have dragged their heels on it a bit though - I think they could have made more of it. And I still don't like Microsoft's approach of only offering the latest DirectX on the latest operating systems. (I don't think all these new Windows operating systems are a big deal anyway, to me they all work the same with face lifts, and just the new versions of DirectX - just seems like pure marketing over content & performance to me).

The new desktops (HP) are coming in with Windows 8 licenses, well they can shove it! /rant

With Windows 7 preinstalled, since some of the mission critical software (even MS new and own software) doesn't run to well on Windows 8/8.1 Our IT management runs Windows 8 without issues, but developers can't use it to code server specific applications, to many safety restrictions build in, disabling them just breaks things. For PC gaming it works out fine thou, why care if MS themselves publishes titles when a lot of others release plenty of great games for the PC?

"Last August, Microsoft snagged away Jason Holtman, the former head of Steam business development at Valve, to make Windows "a great platform for gaming"." Poor Jason Holtman

I see... so does this mean I will be able to install my Resident Evil 5 on my PC again and actually be able to use it... I'm guessing no I will not. Why? Games For Windows Live... that's why.. and the fact that when I played some of it the first time it was "Activated" on a Windows Vista machine... now that I have upgraded to Windows 8... Even if Games for Windows Live returned I would not be able to install my game because it will no longer activate due to reaching it's "activation limit" which is a Microsoft Marketing Term for you activated it on another OS and if you want to play it on a new OS you will have to buy the game again or not play it. The same goes for Halo 2 Vista... which I did play, and I do like.. I spent about 4 months the first time they cut me out from being able to play it when I was stupid enough to think that upgrading to Windows 7 and then Installing Halo 2 Vista on Windows 7 was actually a good idea.. NO IT WAS NOT.. So.. 4 months later, lots of phone calls, me sending photographs of my game case, product key, game CD and all my Halo Figurines lined up next to it all to show I AM A FIKJHSDRGKKING HUGE HALO FAN and they finally send me a new product key... Only to announce they are shutting down Halo 2 Vista servers a few months later. Thanks Microsoft... You are so awesome... and stuff.. I'm just going to stop writing because I could honestly write a book on how sh1t Microsoft is in regards to PC gaming.

Does anybody really care what MS think? They aren't even relevant when it comes to the gaming industry except for providing a platform.

For a company that pushes gaming technology forward with DirectX, they really have a bad history about actually supporting games. In their "infinite" wisdom, they might even bring back a GFWL thing. Frankly, the way they've handled the PC market tells me nothing other than they bank on their Xbox platform and really only care about that... and making sure most games are DirectX to support Windows sales/ piracy/ usage/ market share/ etc.

I see... so does this mean I will be able to install my Resident Evil 5 on my PC again and actually be able to use it... I'm guessing no I will not. Why? Games For Windows Live... that's why.. and the fact that when I played some of it the first time it was "Activated" on a Windows Vista machine... now that I have upgraded to Windows 8... Even if Games for Windows Live returned I would not be able to install my game because it will no longer activate due to reaching it's "activation limit" which is a Microsoft Marketing Term for you activated it on another OS and if you want to play it on a new OS you will have to buy the game again or not play it. The same goes for Halo 2 Vista... which I did play, and I do like.. I spent about 4 months the first time they cut me out from being able to play it when I was stupid enough to think that upgrading to Windows 7 and then Installing Halo 2 Vista on Windows 7 was actually a good idea.. NO IT WAS NOT.. So.. 4 months later, lots of phone calls, me sending photographs of my game case, product key, game CD and all my Halo Figurines lined up next to it all to show I AM A FIKJHSDRGKKING HUGE HALO FAN and they finally send me a new product key... Only to announce they are shutting down Halo 2 Vista servers a few months later. Thanks Microsoft... You are so awesome... and stuff.. I'm just going to stop writing because I could honestly write a book on how sh1t Microsoft is in regards to PC gaming.

Use Tunggle if your tstill into playing Halo 2 on PC, very few dick heads in there due to it being a a small community by todays standards. Well worth it, dont need a CD key either, just install you game, then do what i do with pretty much all my games - Copy and paste the installed game onto a usb or spare HDD, saves you needing to re-install you games later, just drag n drop. Though not all games will work like (FC1, ive discovered) FC 2 does though *Hops in DeLorean and pisses of back to play something oldschool*

lol, really? They'll just say anything won't they. The whole GFWL thing was being marketed like crazy initially then fell flat like they never cared to begin with and didn't take it anywhere other than offer us 360 gamepads to use and some DRM. Theres likely just one thing behind all this....SteamOS

Quick reminder on how BS MS statements are. This is the millionth time we have heard this with no follow up: MS does not care at all about PC gaming. Thanks to Angelus Errare of NeoGAF for the source compilation.

That was awesome. i am saving that. And i've heard this line before from MS. Infact they have done nothing but slow down the progression and forced people down the xbox path.

Quick reminder on how BS MS statements are. This is the millionth time we have heard this with no follow up: MS does not care at all about PC gaming. Thanks to Angelus Errare of NeoGAF for the source compilation.

^This was priceless. 😀

Nicely said Very nicely said there Dictator93 with some real atitude +10:banana:

Windows 8.1 updated locked USB (Mouse) polling rate to 125hz. You can install a fix and make a registry mod to get back 1000hz for your gaming mouse but this lack of thought just shows how little MS care about PC gaming at the moment. Given their low standards, it shouldn't be hard to improve on things but we all know what a load of BS munchers they are. I give MS 50% chance of arresting the advance of Linux and new APIs such as Mantle. I think they might just be too slow and bloated to come back from here.

Windows 8.1 updated locked USB (Mouse) polling rate to 125hz..

so even though my razer is set at 1k polling it's really running at 125? I did try the game lag fix Microsoft put out a while back but it wouldn't install so I guess I have the fix? -or am I gonna need to scavenge the web to find this tweak?

so even though my razer is set at 1k polling it's really running at 125? I did try the game lag fix Microsoft put out a while back but it wouldn't install so I guess I have the fix? -or am I gonna need to scavenge the web to find this tweak?

Yes, unless something has been fixed VERY recently then you need to follow the instructions here: http://www.blurbusters.com/systemwide-fix-win81-mouse-fludiity/ afaik, your mouse wont work properly unless you do the regedit. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

i'll check it out for sure, when I tried the Microsoft game lag fix (the application) first I was on preview, now i'm on pro and boith instances they've not worked. so if it's gonna work then I guess reg-edit is the way to go.

what is this suppose to mean. i mean a 4770K cpu and a 780 GPu with 16Gbs of ram..need a focus on Windows platform? or i see this topic from wrong angle?

what is this suppose to mean. i mean a 4770K cpu and a 780 GPu with 16Gbs of ram..need a focus on Windows platform? or i see this topic from wrong angle?

It's just nonsense marketing crap, see post two for example.

i'll check it out for sure, when I tried the Microsoft game lag fix (the application) first I was on preview, now i'm on pro and boith instances they've not worked. so if it's gonna work then I guess reg-edit is the way to go.

Razer mouse works fine for me.

I think microsoft has done a great job with gaming on the pc. The only reason I even use MS OS's is because of games. For every other computer related task I use Linux.