A step in the right direction, but they'll still need to hire some QA people and get RS5 (and future updates) to a functional state.

Chrome is "asked" to be installed by alot of other installs, unlike other Browsers which one reason it on so many pc followed by people that just click ok when "installing" things

Edge has horrible font rendering. Even though clear type is added at a later point it's still not as good as it should be. The complete modern Windows 10 interface is broken for that matter, but at least you don't need to spend a lot of time reading things there. 🙄

Edge on Android is already based on Chromium so they already have a working browser to some extent. Edge on Windows 10 v1809 is actually the best so far. Very fast and stable for all the sites I frequently visit. Except for YouTube as Google insist on using an old format which FireFox and Edge don't support. Chrome downloaded itself on to everyone's computers when they updated Flash or installed Ccleaner or just about any other popular free software. This is how it gained traction so fast. Personally whilst I use it at work every day but I don't like the way they're forcing changes (or at least tried to with the user profiles and https malarky).

This is sad, we do not need another ie6/trident fake standard.

Man, April comes earlier and earlier every year in computing.

How are the rulings against Microsoft to be interpreted now? If all the alternatives are Google/Google based, It is now Google that is being forced down everyone's throat. Is not that what Google was initially complaining about all those years ago? Where's the competition? Today Chrome books...tomorrow it will be the only UI in existence. Instead of towing the line, easier to give up and put out a single homogeneous yuck because the "everyday" person is too blinded by the shiny flashings placed in their field of vision. This is in no way good. What happened to all the "competition is good for the consumer" line that is in the gpu and cpu threads? The only reason Google is everywhere is because they saw the long play of giving the software away for "free" back in the day. Nothing is truly free. Now there is not going to be a choice...how is that free? How is this good?

Boss, seems that I posted a similar thread, just saw this article and I realize that search before actually posting wasn't my strong point today. Mods, please delete or merge threads, no sense for double posting.

Edge wasn't that bad though. I have it in android pie also as beta. It is as fast as it is in windows 10 insider versions. Well, each to his own. Sync was working good between these two platforms.

I'm 35 and the two things I learned from the tech industry is 1.) Microsoft makes the worst Internet Browser & 2.) INTEL always sucked at making GPU's.

BangTail:

No thanks, Chrome is such an unmitigated POS and has sleazed it's way on to millions of PCs by way of other software's installers. Fu*king Chrome should show up in a big wooden horse. MS needs to hire some people who have some faith in (and ability to resurrect) their own brand as opposed to acquiescing to Google the way that sellout Belfior did with the Windows Phone. Why is a self confessed Android user in charge of Microsoft's Mobile department? Well, we'll always have Firefox I guess.

no matter how much MS throw money at their browser-developer-team it wont win google chrome not until someone success replacing google as internet-multi-service not only search engine well for someone with genius-mind, it wont long before they get hired to google or google bought the whole-company as their subsidiary actually thats why google make it open-source imo, they getting more benefit from more-use with their engine easier for them to optimize their other services with their "blink" engine, rather than opposite, optimize their service for multiple-browser-engine

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it's become impossible for the average user to avoid google. I mean, they've even entered the lexicon, nobody searches for something online, they 'google' that shit. Scary stuff. I've been using Vivaldi, which is admittedly a fork of Chromium, and I still need to get off gmail and google drive, so I'm a hypocrite.

Toadstool:

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it's become impossible for the average user to avoid google. I mean, they've even entered the lexicon, nobody searches for something online, they 'google' that crap. Scary stuff. I've been using Vivaldi, which is admittedly a fork of Chromium, and I still need to get off gmail and google drive, so I'm a hypocrite.

If you tried to block everything google-related, I'm guessing most of the internet wouldn't work right, at this point. They have their fingers in everyone's pies. And even when they don't, they crawl and index everything that hasn't specifically opted out of it. It's the opt-out policy with a large part of their range of services and products that makes me resent them. As someone pointed out, on technical merit, Chromium-based browsers are probably the best, but if you have concerns over privacy and security (from EVERYONE, not just the people THEY label as dangerous), you can forget about it. I should point out that I'm using Google as a prime example, but not excluding the rest of the usual suspects in my criticisms.

BLEH!:

I'll stick with FF, thanks.

Me too, but still, having more rendering engines is good. Especially would be nice to see EdgeHTML browser on iOS where OS-based webkit is buggy as hell. iOS is a good example of what could be, if we end up having single engine. We need some choice. And main Edge problem is that they don't listening to users, instead listening to greedy managers who wants their bonuses for making their divisions just few more bucks profitable. If MS would start listen to users, Edge could gain some traction.

Anything from Google or Amazon should be trashed... Hopefully Chromium is only the engine without all the bad of Chrome... it's not a bad news as Edge never reached to have it's fanclub: - it's not IE for IE's fan (and so there is also IE on the side of Edge), - and it is the new IE for those who dislike IE (also chosing an icon similar to IE wasn't a bright idea lol ). Despite that Edge is a really fast and reliable browser.

schmidtbag:

Opera is also now based on Chrome. They ditched their own engine a long while ago.

Yes but lot of change in Opera, so it is based only ( BTW Opera had also since few ago some FF in it ). The nice thing is that you can have Chromium but without all ( Evil ) things from Google.

IchimA:

No one is mentioning Opera ! ? I am using it for year now ( maybe 10 - 12 ) ... and it works for me ! Sometimes it has problems with Flash Player but that is about it . I just can't get myself to use Chrome. Was using Firefox in my younger age but for me opera runs good

Just use Flash Player for Chrome if you really need Flash, or use a Flash to HTML5 converter (work better with Opera but don't know if exist on windows)...

Well, it can mean few things: - google's browser spy-works were better and therefore no loss here for lifelog project - MS does spy on your http(s) traffic through network related libraries, therefore they no longer need users to use their browser

A highly biased list, courtesy of my time working in IT: 1. Firefox - (post v57 / Quantum) management issues aside, its good. Fast, stable, (mostly) not sketchy. 2. Vivaldi - Made by the original Opera devs, chromium-based. Frequently updated with a lot of smart functionality carried over from pre-chromium Opera. Learning curve. 3. Opera - Great, would be number 1 but... chromium-based and now owned by a Chinese consortium (privacy issues from two side). 4. Chromium - If you strip away all the good UI tweaks from Vivaldi or Opera 5. Chrome - bloated Chromium, questionable privacy - supposedly anonymous tracking info is shared, particularly on installation or update. 6-7 (tie). Safari - a lot like Chrome in that its a resource hog with questionable privacy. Based on webkit instead of blink (webkit fork), that chromium uses. Apple only for years now and the desktop version has all the quirks of the smaller browsers like Vivaldi or Opera. 6-7 (tie). Edge - "Meh" in about every way: speed, resource use, usability ,etc, etc. Dressed up in a nice Win10/metro UI skin but still a descendant of IE (fork from stripped down version, removing old IE) 8. IE (10-11) - That thing your grandparents use and/or the old browsers that sys admins still have to (reluctantly) support, some software still requires it for one reason or another - usually custom business apps built around ASP.NET. 9. IE (1-9) - Circles of hell. The stuff of nightmares for web developers. Special award goes to IE 6 for hanging on seemingly forever through Win XP.

nevcairiel:

I've not once experienced that. Maybe not installing a bunch of shady software prevents that from happening.

The avast installer used to try and sneak chrome in during the install.

DW75:

IMO, the best web browser that exists is Brave. You can check it out at the link. Not many know about it, which is a shame. It it more secure than any other browser. https://brave.com/

+1 for brave.