The less fanfare about a new intel product, this time in the graphics department can only be a good thing judging from their passed experience.

Ghosty:

The less fanfare about a new intel product, this time in the graphics department can only be a good thing judging from their passed experience.

I don't think there has been much if any fanfare this time. It's more along the lines of please don't suck performance wise and price wise give Nvidia and AMD a bit of a blood nose.

Maddness:

I don't think there has been much if any fanfare this time. It's more along the lines of please don't suck performance wise and price wise give Nvidia and AMD a bit of a blood nose.

They have certainly done that with the RRP - very much so.

If is someone hiring to Intel GPU drivers team let me know.. I guess that there would expected IBM level of performance 6 lines per day. Its 3 years so they just talking, same about nanometers for CPUs.. if there would be improvements they would be already visible in performance of present intel videocards, drivers..

Last time I checked, IrisXe was comparable to integrated vega in laptops. And while AMD released rdna for laptops, its not like it is working with DDR4, which is most likely where 80-90% of performance improvements are coming from.

This release had better be a whole lot better than their previous desktop video card release. That thing was horrendous. The worst thing was it would only work in a special motherboard from Intel. That kind of thing will not sell video cards.

All Intel REALLY needs to do is offer up to 3060 - 3070 level performance on par and it will bring the prices down for the mass market. I have no false expectation of 3080 / 6800/XT or better performance from Intel and can wait until "REAL" 4K60FPS RTRT becomes available at a reasonable prices.

There is a girl on YouTube. And she got DG1 somewhere, don't know where, which is even working on AMD motherboard. [youtube=XTGDNpax5Fg]

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i740 incoming

Mannerheim:

i740 incoming

God, really hope it won't be that bad, it can't be that bad, no way. Still remember that moment when I had a "pleasure" to try/test i740 for the first time 20 and so years ago. It was maybe 3, 4 months after i740 got released and it left bitter taste in my mouth, every other GPU I've had bough/own year or two ago was faster than i740, didn't expected much out from it but performance, drivers... still... horror story, nothing else. It wasn't my card so not big deal to me, it was a card of daughter of my mom's colleague from work, funny thing I still remember that, but can't remember the idiot 😀 who told them to buy prebuild PC with i740 inside. Month or two before close encounter with i740 I've sold my 1st gen Voodoo 6MB to buy freshly released Voodoo 2 12MB (can't remember the other card it was paired with, yikes) because I was heavily hooked/spoiled with 3dfx in games and i740 "3D performance" left me speachless. Few years later had my 2nd encounter with i740 in some other computer, can't remember who was the owner of that one, Intel already abandoned i740 with drivers few years before and at that time it was huge POS compared to everything else on the market. Don't have i740 in my GPU collection, would love to have one just to be able to remember and told stories about it to my grandchildren, one day 🙂 I'm not expecting earhquake from Intel ARC launch for desktop market, just expecting from them to shake GPU market at least a bit as a 3rd player on the GPU market, but these Intels announcements for announcements are really pissing me off, are they having issues with production, some drivers issues or something else really don't know but ffs speed up things a bit Intel before 2nd hand market gets flooded with cheap used mining cards (one can hope it'll come soon enough) or else Arc will bite the dust on its launch day.

5 year later intel card should be available

schmidtbag:

Anyone else confused about how next-gen parts are supposed to be named? Perhaps they'll just add a 4th digit.

Well, they are all A, and then the numbers, and they are all Alchemists, and their next one will be Battlemage, so it could just go B750, B580, etc. and just continue that way since they havce Celestial and Druid after that. I'd honestly be surprised if they don't do that.

XenthorX:

It's not like they started from nothing given they've had their integrated GPU for a while.

That's like being excited about VIA finally releasing a CPU in the mainstream again, or S3 graphics making a graphics card again. Sure, it's something they both have done, but it's not something either of them have proven they are particularly good at doing.

Crazy Serb:

Last time I checked, IrisXe was comparable to integrated vega in laptops.

Not exactly a selling point

Crazy Serb:

And while AMD released rdna for laptops, its not like it is working with DDR4, which is most likely where 80-90% of performance improvements are coming from.

Also not likely. I'm sure it may help, but that's like saying the only benefit discrete RDNA 2 GPUs have over Vega is better memory. Plus, if that were the case, where are Intels DDR5 massive improvements over DDR4? All of intels 12th gen processors with a iGPU are Xe, even if they state UHD. GN even did a review on this, DDR4 vs DDR5 on Intels 12th gen Xe graphics, which showed little to no difference, winning, and even losing, but mostly just around the same performance no matter DDR4 or DDR5

coth:

There is a girl on YouTube. And she got DG1 somewhere, don't know where, which is even working on AMD motherboard. [youtube=XTGDNpax5Fg]

The Iris Max Xe are in products such as the Acer Swift 3x, you can obtain these mobile gpu's from products that didn't pass QC and then manufacturer counterfeit cards with LPDDR4x from the harvested parts. The product above is not a legitimate card, it even has the cooler that some fake 1050ti's have.

Astyanax:

The Iris Max Xe are in products such as the Acer Swift 3x, you can obtain these mobile gpu's from products that didn't pass QC and then manufacturer counterfeit cards with LPDDR4x from the harvested parts. The product above is not a legitimate card, it even has the cooler that fake 1050ti's have.

You never know it might be turn out to better. 😉

Ghosty:

You never know it might be turn out to better. 😉

unfortunately i doubt that, these mobile Xe's aren't thermal limited, just limited by spec and the odd choice of using LPDDR4 instead of GDDR5 or 6.

Astyanax:

unfortunately i doubt that, these mobile Xe's aren't thermal limited, just limited by spec and the odd choice of using LPDDR4 instead of GDDR5 or 6.

Probably all they could get hold of. GDDR4/5 is more specialized.

They do not need to compete in high end to be successful from the get go , as far they bring vfm, Polaris 480 and 580 where excellent vfm . If Intel can do something similar then it will be fine ! And the can shoot at high end on the next gens if they can.

Venix:

They do not need to compete in high end to be successful from the get go , as far they bring vfm, Polaris 480 and 580 where excellent vfm . If Intel can do something similar then it will be fine ! And the can shoot at high end on the next gens if they can.

This is probably the scenario they are aiming for. Still, leaked pricing is not that great. You just cant charge same or more than nvidia with no marketshare.