Intel Core i5-12600K outperforms AMD Ryzen 5 5600X in CPU-Z Benchmark by Huge Margin

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mackintosh:

I'm having a tough time imagining a 20% increase in IPC won't translate into gaming performance. Especially in CPU bound titles. There was a huge gap between the 5800X and the 3800X in CPU sensitive titles. I don't remember the benchmarks off the top of my head, but at 1080p it was something like a 40% increase in CS:GO, almost 30% in SoTR. These gains were off a roughly ~17% in IPC. If these leaks are true, and at this point I don't think Hilbert would be posting them if they weren't right on the money - ADL will destroy Zen 3 in these titles.
The only point of contention is memory latency, some games , like csgo, arent really cpu bound at this point and are memory bound, unfortunately with ddr5 the latencies are alot higher, i suspect that memory config is going to matter on alderlake and that tight ddr4 in gear 1 mode will be faster at least to start with, though that really depends on how much the extra cache helps. Then again , if you are already getting 500fps in csgo , does it really matter if you're latency bound? Cpus are so fast these days that few if any games will see a appreciable increases in performance that result in an objectively "better" experience, we are at the point where even a $50 athlon 200ge provides playable framerates (~60fps) in games.
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Interesting charts, but the single threaded results are not exactly telling. Which cores are they benching? Does the affinity default to the high power or the high efficiency when you just throw one thread at it? How does the scheduler determine which one to run a given task on?
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illrigger:

Interesting charts, but the single threaded results are not exactly telling. Which cores are they benching? Does the affinity default to the high power or the high efficiency when you just throw one thread at it? How does the scheduler determine which one to run a given task on?
Assuming this is windows 11 that supports alder lake, the scheduler communicates directly to hardware on the CPU which tells it where to put a single threaded load(best core)
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illrigger:

Interesting charts, but the single threaded results are not exactly telling. Which cores are they benching? Does the affinity default to the high power or the high efficiency when you just throw one thread at it? How does the scheduler determine which one to run a given task on?
lol.. I mean if it was benching (if these are even real) the high efficiency cores then AMD is totally fucked.
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finally using big/little architecture together with a good scheduler and making use of shit is known to the vendors, yaaaay :>
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Must be tested pre- chipset update released friday. Show me an upgraded test with new win 11 drivers. I call BS on this as a PR stunt
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There are a lot of Alderlake CPUs out there in different hands, from motherboard manufacturers to reviewers under NDA. Its due out soon, Nov 4. No leaks have shown weak results to throw doubt on the other leaks. So less chance of this being BS than the real deal.
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cucaulay malkin:

for budget builds 11400f was available for 170eur,it's closer to 200 now but that is still a massive price raise to charge 300usd for a six core as much as I think rkl is a wasteful launch,I'm not gonna recommend a 300eur six core over a 190eur one,even if it does beat 5800x. also,buying adl-s involves buying ddr5 at launch prices when 4600 c19 ddr4 kits sell for 100eur. https://geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-v-schwarz-dimm-kit-16gb-f4-4600c19d-16gvke-a2523647.html https://geizhals.de/g-skill-ripjaws-v-schwarz-dimm-kit-16gb-f4-4800c19d-16gvkc-a2528196.html
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-11600K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B08X67YZBL/ Intel Core i5-11600K $259.99
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Agonist:

My 5600x scores 683 single, 5339 multi @4.9 Why are we surprised a year later intel beats it?
Because 5600x is the 6 core King @only65 watts!....everybody wants to dethrone the current King especially in the business world...if the new 12600k can really outperform the 5600x without breaking a sweat and running cool on air it will be a winner! However, if it's a hot little b**** that eats up electricity!....{insert personal opinion here}? all modern processors are equal at 4K....finding a graphics card at a decent price to run 4K is a different story. I know most of you fellas are PC enthusiast with top-of-the-line equipment but I got to tell you my little GTX 1060 blows away my Xbox One!....fluid gameplay @1080 I can play all Far Cry games an they look great!....it might not be 100fps but it ain't much under 60 with bombs going off!
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Airbud:

Because 5600x is the 6 core King @only65 watts!....everybody wants to dethrone the current King especially in the business world...if the new 12600k can really outperform the 5600x without breaking a sweat and running cool on air it will be a winner! However, if it's a hot little b**** that eats up electricity!....{insert personal opinion here}? all modern processors are equal at 4K....finding a graphics card at a decent price to run 4K is a different story. I know most of you fellas are PC enthusiast with top-of-the-line equipment but I got to tell you my little GTX 1060 blows away my Xbox One!....fluid gameplay @1080 I can play all Far Cry games an they look great!....it might not be 100fps but it ain't much under 60 with bombs going off!
Well said bud. I see you are still happy with that sandy bridge legend.
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Undying:

Well said bud. I see you are still happy with that sandy bridge legend.
I'm going to start a thread about upgrading Blues!....I love this 2600k and there is a 8700k at my feet with a fresh install of Windows 10 on a solid state drive!...fresh and fast! But I love this one!....when I can afford a new graphics card then I will swap. You know what us budget gamers need right now is a 3050Ti for $150 duck bones! Remember the HD 5770!
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As we know Intel next Gen core is a 6 wide core VS 4 wide AMD and pseudo 5 wide previous generation Intel processors not to mentions some of upcoming cpus also will have efficiency core. So yes, I think these benchmarks are pretty accurate and I expect a big jump in performance for Intel 12xx series
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Airbud:

Because 5600x is the 6 core King @only65 watts!....everybody wants to dethrone the current King especially in the business world...if the new 12600k can really outperform the 5600x without breaking a sweat and running cool on air it will be a winner! However, if it's a hot little b**** that eats up electricity!....{insert personal opinion here}? all modern processors are equal at 4K....finding a graphics card at a decent price to run 4K is a different story. I know most of you fellas are PC enthusiast with top-of-the-line equipment but I got to tell you my little GTX 1060 blows away my Xbox One!....fluid gameplay @1080 I can play all Far Cry games an they look great!....it might not be 100fps but it ain't much under 60 with bombs going off!
you may wanna take a look at actual in-game fps/wat vs 10600K [youtube=7IKGjh1F1bo] people like to take 5600x and 10600k fps results and then extrapolate the power efficiency by using stress test power draw numbers where avx absolutely ruins it. in games they're neck to neck,with 10600K winning a few triple A's both in performance and in efficiency. no doubt 5600x is the best six core,but 10600KF is pretty much the same and the price difference is massive. From consumer's standpoint,it's amd that need to lower prices in the first place,before intel catches up with the product.It's 40% price premium now,and it's actually much lower than it's been thoroughout this year.
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