Absolutely, but, cloud and AI servers are relatively new. This isn't a matter of upgrading an old infrastructure, it's building a new one. So, they're not bound to Intel.
Even if they are new servers they typically need certification and licenses, which might depend on certain hardware configurations. Due to their long-time dominant position, Intel would have all the certifications needed and would be the safer bet.
schmidtbag:
She was right, too. Despite Intel's increasing success, AMD too seems to be doing great in the server market.
Yes, AMD has their foot in the door but it will be a while before they bust it open. However, even if they get going, they probably won't have the capacity to make a major dent to Intel's server profits - not much wiggle room at TSMC in terms of capacity.
Those that run a 2080 ti uncapped, no-vsync, unlimited fps on a 1080p screen at 60hz, probably don't think about Greta Thunberg.
Not a good association.
And when one think about the environment, about real problems, that...you know what...should be the last person on our minds.
Anyway, warlord was making a joke...
Man every time there's an AMD or Intel article on this site I check the comments for some painful reason and it's always absolutely ridiculous seeing people throw all sense of logic and information out the window to crap all over intel while talking about AMD like their favorite sports team - they're both (in this context) companies making CPUs to get as much of your money as possible.
We get it - you cheer on AMD - you love AMD - you want to have AMD babies - but why? Why do you have this mentality? They're not better for gaming yet - they probably will be soon based on current outlook (and I sincerely hope that happens to keep pricing consumer-friendly) but they're still just NOT better - that 9900K (or the newer version of it) is still the chip a discerning gamer buys for their system if they're interested in the best performance they can get - which I feel like guru3d.com caters to as a community.
Cheer on AMD all you want it's humorous but why constantly say things that are completely untrue?
Did you just wrote about nizzen and such? Because they refer to AMD's CPUs as 60fps. While They get periodically proven wrong as people who own AMD's CPUs play modern games even at 240fps...
You are right that some people generally post negatively about intel. But, lets face facts. When it gets to smearing intel, people usually use real world information, experience.
Those who throw dirt at AMD base their posts on myths, misconceptions, alternative realities, ... and you can argue with them for ages, but they never really deliver evidence.
So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?
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Once you answer, maybe you can reread posts above yours and quote those false ones. And mark false statements... just for fun.
Fergutor:
Impossible. I read countless times, from totally not infantile tribalistic fanboys, that Intel was dead...
They usually have no knowledge of what intel does. What are their products for different industries. What they rent and so on.
Neither they have smallest idea of production size of intel vs AMD on CPU front for each CPU type market.
But question is: Did you have any better understanding of intel's business than them? Or are you laughing to your equals who had as much idea as you about result of RED vs BLACK in roulette?
This is expected--many orders were already in the Intel purchasing channels--and I have no problem with people buying inferior CPUs and so on. I'm simply glad that I don't have to. But I'll be willing to predict that by this time in 2021 things will look much different for Intel if it continues to sell its 14nm-22nm CPU products, laden with dozens of security holes, etc. 2020 should be a bigger year for AMD than 2019 according to AMD's estimates. They've been right on the money for the last three years. One thing is for sure--Intel isn't fabbing much at all at 10nm and pretty much nothing at 7nm....;)
Did you just wrote about nizzen and such? Because they refer to AMD's CPUs as 60fps. While They get periodically proven wrong as people who own AMD's CPUs play modern games even at 240fps...
You are right that some people generally post negatively about intel. But, lets face facts. When it gets to smearing intel, people usually use real world information, experience.
Those who throw dirt at AMD base their posts on myths, misconceptions, alternative realities, ... and you can argue with them for ages, but they never really deliver evidence.
So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?
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Once you answer, maybe you can reread posts above yours and quote those false ones. And mark false statements... just for fun.
They usually have no knowledge of what intel does. What are their products for different industries. What they rent and so on.
Neither they have smallest idea of production size of intel vs AMD on CPU front for each CPU type market.
But question is: Did you have any better understanding of intel's business than them? Or are you laughing to your equals who had as much idea as you about result of RED vs BLACK in roulette?
Ps: I have 3900x, 1800x and 1950x, if you think I base my posts on
myths, misconceptions, alternative realities... 😉
Ps: I have 3900x, 1800x and 1950x, if you think I base my posts on
myths, misconceptions, alternative realities... 😉
Your generalized 60Hz/fps comments are exactly that. Gaming differences are tiny at best. In some cases AMD already wins once compared in $ to $ scenarios.
So, spewing here some 60fps/Hz dirt is like saying that intel is in same spot.
Your generalized 60Hz/fps comments are exactly that. Gaming differences are tiny at best. In some cases AMD already wins once compared in $ to $ scenarios.
So, spewing here some 60fps/Hz dirt is like saying that intel is in same spot.
That's because PC enthusiasts don't care about Intel anymore - the DIY market is currently dominated by AMD. For the common pleb, Intel will do just fine.
All I want from Intel is competition on the GPU front in the next few years. Video card pricing is insane now. Having dump trucks full of CPU money to do R&D can't hurt their other departments.
That's because PC enthusiasts don't care about Intel anymore - the DIY market is currently dominated by AMD. For the common pleb, Intel will do just fine.
Looks like you are generalizing entusiasts..... Why?
Did you just wrote about nizzen and such? Because they refer to AMD's CPUs as 60fps. While They get periodically proven wrong as people who own AMD's CPUs play modern games even at 240fps...
You are right that some people generally post negatively about intel. But, lets face facts. When it gets to smearing intel, people usually use real world information, experience.
Those who throw dirt at AMD base their posts on myths, misconceptions, alternative realities, ... and you can argue with them for ages, but they never really deliver evidence.
So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?
- - - -
Once you answer, maybe you can reread posts above yours and quote those false ones. And mark false statements... just for fun.
They usually have no knowledge of what intel does. What are their products for different industries. What they rent and so on.
Neither they have smallest idea of production size of intel vs AMD on CPU front for each CPU type market.
But question is: Did you have any better understanding of intel's business than them? Or are you laughing to your equals who had as much idea as you about result of RED vs BLACK in roulette?
Dude, your post is an embarrassment...about yourself of course.
How can anybody have such gigantic narcissism to write : "When it gets to smearing intel, people usually use real world information, experience. Those who throw dirt at AMD base their posts on myths, misconceptions, alternative realities"
"So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?"
Should I be here hours writting about all what's morally, logically and factually wrong about that? No. I will leave you be, you already have a reputation of such...suitability.
Then the part you reply to me, more of the same, exuberant irony included: precisely the absurdities AMD fanboys (and paid propagandist I suspect) vomit, is because few call them out, and rather participate in the fad. And funny you tell to the other guy, pro AMD anti-Intel comments "are usually based on real world info" and immediately you say they don't have knowledge of what Intel does...Who do you think I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, says the guy who distorts some info and creates other...
Then, answering your dishonest question:yes. But, given you already poisoned the well and your "question" was not such but an accusation, does it matter?
It's obvious his comment and mine touched you, emotionally, A LOT, when there's no reason for thar to happen, which means, proves, you fall precisely in what you narcissistically try in vain to distanciate yourself from, again: tribalism.
But again, doesn't matter, as everyone have eyes and can read the fallacy, hicopcrisy and dishonesty of your post...as in all your posts...
Hey dudes, everyone here, quiet it down.
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!
But ""enthusiast"" gurus say AMD GPUCPU are all about 30 and 60 fps. They are noise for majority of guru3d readers. I never saw Hilbert saying pc gamers transform into console gamers if using AMD.
Dude, your post is an embarrassment...about yourself of course.
How can anybody have such gigantic narcissism to write : "When it gets to smearing intel, people usually use real world information, experience. Those who throw dirt at AMD base their posts on myths, misconceptions, alternative realities"
"So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?"
Should I be here hours writting about all what's morally, logically and factually wrong about that? No. I will leave you be, you already have a reputation of such...suitability.
Then the part you reply to me, more of the same, exuberant irony included: precisely the absurdities AMD fanboys (and paid propagandist I suspect) vomit, is because few call them out, and rather participate in the fad. And funny you tell to the other guy, pro AMD anti-Intel comments "are usually based on real world info" and immediately you say they don't have knowledge of what Intel does...Who do you think I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, says the guy who distorts some info and creates other...
Then, answering your dishonest question:yes. But, given you already poisoned the well and your "question" was not such but an accusation, does it matter?
It's obvious his comment and mine touched you, emotionally, A LOT, when there's no reason for thar to happen, which means, proves, you fall precisely in what you narcissistically try in vain to distanciate yourself from, again: tribalism.
But again, doesn't matter, as everyone have eyes and can read the fallacy, hicopcrisy and dishonesty of your post...as in all your posts...
1st of all, I can separate A from B. A is that people usually base their negativity on new serious or less serious vulnerability in intel's CPUs that usually costs them performance in long run. It annoys the hell out of people.
Anyone can understand that sentiment.
Then there is B, that people claiming death to intel really do not understand their business. It has nothing to do with vulnerabilities. So, please, don't mess two separate things together just to create non-existent contradiction. Because it will be just in your mind. And it will prevent you from thinking clearly.
It is not that I do not like intel, I do not like some of their products. And I have very good reasons for that. Each explained in appropriate threads.
(And I am not throwing dirt on intel here.)
In contrast to that, I do not like nVidia for their behavior, but I acknowledge that they make very good hardware. And guys here know that.
Whatever impression you have is yours, and feel free to keep it.
Question to you was not poisoned. It was simple one. You came at high horse. But you did that "post-factum". And in very specific way. We have saying which roughly translates to: "After battle, everyone is general." And your post looked like it fits the bill.
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@vbetts : No negativity here from me. You have heard me dozen times ago with statement, that AMD does not even have production capacity available to make dent to intel's revenue. AMD can have vastly superior product, and it will still not hurt intel badly before intel can actually fix their issues. (Not that AMD has that. Zen is better for large quantity of tasks, but not all. And even if it won in all types of tasks by small margin, there is brand loyalty.)
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I would say to everyone here, that we here always have great opportunity which most miss on. We here read what other people who are interested in HW/SW think. And we share ourselves.
I personally see great contrast between us here and the Big Population who just want notebook/desktop/tablet/cellphone to send emails, browse web, see TV shows.
That's big part of "Dead Intel" comments. In office, when someone walks around with Ryzen based Carbon, people notice and think about upgrade. For outside world, it is: "My intel sticker is nicer."
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As for revenue. We (@nizzen included) did point multiple times that intel's business is diversified. But people really not shown any interest in knowing how. Which is interesting realization on its own.
"So, tell me with all honesty you have. What does irritate you more. Some humorous posts of AMD's fans or some down right idiotic lies of intel's fans?" Should I be here hours writting about all what's morally, logically and factually wrong about that? No. I will leave you be, you already have a reputation of such...suitability. Then the part you reply to me, more of the same, exuberant irony included: precisely the absurdities AMD fanboys (and paid propagandist I suspect) vomit, is because few call them out, and rather participate in the fad. And funny you tell to the other guy, pro AMD anti-Intel comments "are usually based on real world info" and immediately you say they don't have knowledge of what Intel does...Who do you think I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, says the guy who distorts some info and creates other... Then, answering your dishonest question:yes. But, given you already poisoned the well and your "question" was not such but an accusation, does it matter? It's obvious his comment and mine touched you, emotionally, A LOT, when there's no reason for thar to happen, which means, proves, you fall precisely in what you narcissistically try in vain to distanciate yourself from, again: tribalism. But again, doesn't matter, as everyone have eyes and can read the fallacy, hicopcrisy and dishonesty of your post...as in all your posts...