8 core in 2018? It's so 2014 😛 (5960x) one of the best cpu investments I ever did. 4.8ghz on ek water.

^^ 4.8Ghz on water isn't exactly typical of all 5960Xs though is it, you got lucky with your silicon there! What sort of volts you need for that? Ever run it on anything colder? Back on topic, might be interested in buying one if it works on my Z370 Apex, if not its highly unlikely Id bother with it since I have a 7960X anyway

nizzen:

8 core in 2018? It's so 2014 😛 (5960x) one of the best cpu investments I ever did. 4.8ghz on ek water.

Yeah, and that probably cost twice as much as what this CL-S will be.

It would have to cost about the same as the 2700X or else why would anyone buy it? If it costs £400 why would anyone pay £135 more than an AMD 2700X and nearly £100 more than an 8700K for just an extra two cores, four threads? Lets not forget it still has the meltdown/specter vulnerabilities so why bother really. Also it may need a Z390 board to run well and don't forget you'll need to add on the cost of a fan whereas the 2700X comes with one. Interesting times for Intel me thinks as they might see their CPU dominance across the board start to erode and how will they react to a real competitor that AMD are shaping up to be. TBH I'm fuc**d off with Intel over the Z270 non up gradeability and I can't wait to get away from them TBH. Ryzen 2 looks good to me to upgrade to as I have to buy a new motherboard anyway.

schmidtbag:

Yeah, and that probably cost twice as much as what this CL-S will be.

4 years ago, and still strong. 2700x strong for four years, and more pci-e lanes 😀

JamesSneed:

It has USB 3.1 G2 so 10Gbps vs 5 and good built in AC Wifi. Thats all over the prior z370.

Umm, any good AIB with z370 chipset has those 2! what are you talking about?

So will this be free from the security flaws of previous Intel chips?

alanm:

So will this be free from the security flaws of previous Intel chips?

There is no official info about the chip, so what do you think? 😉 Only Intel knows atm.

Yogi:

Can someone explain a valid reason for the Z390 chipset to me?

power delivery potentially, there are some current boards with weak vrms that will likely be unable to overclock the 8 core , and will likely throttle hard under heavy load. 30% more power consumption than a 8700k is pretty much a given, going to be difficult to cool with the intel mayo inside. I'm rather surpised they are even bothering with an 8 core coffee lake, its so late , I would have expected a 14nm icelake , This is essentially intel releasing an 8 corechip based on a 4 year old architecture( skylake). Considering amd already has 7nm zen2 samples, 2019 is going to be a blood bath if intel has nothing better to offer

user1:

power delivery potentially, there are some current boards with weak vrms that will likely be unable to overclock the 8 core , and will likely throttle hard under heavy load. 30% more power consumption than a 8700k is pretty much a given, going to be difficult to cool with the intel mayo inside. I'm rather surpised they are even bothering with an 8 core coffee lake, its so late , I would have expected a 14nm icelake , This is essentially intel releasing an 8 corechip based on a 4 year old architecture( skylake). Considering amd already has 7nm zen2 samples, 2019 is going to be a blood bath if intel has nothing better to offer

All intel has to do is to have HW level patches for spectre/meltdown. Then, those CPUs will look like solid upgrade over older Chips degraded by patches.

Fox2232:

All intel has to do is to have HW level patches for spectre/meltdown. Then, those CPUs will look like solid upgrade over older Chips degraded by patches.

I'm skeptical that this chip will have any major hw mitigation. A patch for meltdown maybe, perhaps a reduced performance hit for spectre, complete speculation (hehe) on my part, nothing more that that however. Given the way intel handled the inital deployment of patches in january, doesn't inspire much confidence.

user1:

I'm skeptical that this chip will have any major hw mitigation. A patch for meltdown maybe, perhaps a reduced performance hit for spectre, complete speculation (hehe) on my part, nothing more that that however. Given the way intel handled the inital deployment of patches in january, doesn't inspire much confidence.

True, but they known about it at least 6 month before January. Maybe they spent more time redesigning architecture than patching it. It is economically sound approach. At least unless you make it clear that you are throwing your current clients under buss to boost future sales.

Nvm 🙂

Could it be that AMD is saving the 2800X name to compete against 8800K? we know that on current zen+ 12nm the 2700X is the top limit +~5% with OC so left the 2800X for "just in case" intel gonna release this "8800K" - and the 2800X will be the 7nm 8 core(4 core disabled on 12c silicone)? just to take the performance crown if Intel decides to release strong 8 core model?(just for 2800X, not all line refresh). Because if the 7nm dies are 12 cores each, there must be defects on such early 7nm processes and they could have nice amount of 8c usable silicons, if the 8800K will overclock the same like 8700K then AMD needs it, and can make good money for it. If you think about it, TR2 @32C going to be HEDT king, EPYC 7nm on Server side and only home PC left - and with 7nm 2800X AMD could make customer really consider their products over Intel's offering. Intel has a lot of $$$$, so only the TIME is on AMD's side so they must attack now or with enough time with Intel's $$$$ they will make better solutions to break AMD current "atractive offerings".