GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Launch Date October 26th + Specs and Details

Agent-A01

2017-09-29 21:04

tunejunky:

well i can see where you'd have that attitude. what i'm talking about are the physical properties of the gpu die. for example, volta is at the maximum size of any chip as it encompasses virtually the entire wafer...in order to actually sell them, they have to be sorted with certain sections disabled because of variations in yield...and those disabled sections are not consistent except for being at the periphery...which takes time and money and thus is not ready for primetime. like ryzen, vega is scalable. instead of "zeppelin" modules, you'd have the equivalent. meaning at 7nm, they could configure a gpu with multiple times the performance currently available at a far higher rate of yield, lowering costs, power, and temps with increased frequency. that is navi. that scares nvidia (justly) as they race to come up with an alternative.

GV100 is huge and is not going to be in huge mass productions. They aren't using that chip for Geforce cards. Geforce cards max size will be much smaller than that. Therefore "not ready for primetime' or whatever else you are saying doesn't apply here. Secondly, AMD is known for product hype and not being able to fulfill that hype. Saying Navi is going to be exceptionally good is just wishful thinking.

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millibyte

2017-09-29 21:23

Wait for Vega... Wait for AIBs... Wait for drivers... Wait for Navi... http://www.usgwarchives.net/mi/oceana/photos/tombstones/hart/vega232493nph.jpg The unicorns seem appropriate.

#5477113

Calmmo

2017-09-29 22:31

Agent-A01:

EoL? What basis did you make that assumption off of? Volta is going to be out after GDDR6 mass production starts. You're looking at Q2 2018 for an equivalent of GV104. We aren't talking about a month or two, 9 months is a long time. Are you going to tell new system builders to stick with IGP until volta release?

ok we're just taking shit arent we, new system builders pointless point already answered by my first post if you actually bothered to read. And im really sorry i didnt take the bait for the brand war post, have fun.

#5477117

tunejunky

2017-09-29 22:45

hey guys - i'm not a fanboy for anything but technology. what i've stated about volta and navi are facts, not opinions. like Woodward and Bernstein you have to "follow the money", in these cases what i'm talking about can be gleaned from any trade pub and investment info. the fact of the matter is amd's "infinity fabric" is revolutionary and both nvidia and intel are racing to emulate it. again, not an opinion, just fact. whatever feathers are ruffled, so be it. but reading the amd roadmap, reiterated the last two years, is the fact that navi is going to be the first multi-core gpu. and they could, if desired, go full TR4 for the socket.

#5477126

RavenMaster

2017-09-29 23:26

Well i'm sitting here using 2x GTX 1080's in SLI and have been doing so for over a year now. 1070Ti seems so lackluster especially when Volta is nearing readiness.

#5477137

umeng2002

2017-09-30 00:29

millibyte:

Wait for Vega... Wait for AIBs... Wait for drivers... Wait for Navi... http://www.usgwarchives.net/mi/oceana/photos/tombstones/hart/vega232493nph.jpg The unicorns seem appropriate.

Raja's name needs to be photoshopped on that tombstone.

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Loophole35

2017-09-30 02:16

tunejunky:

hey guys - i'm not a fanboy for anything but technology. what i've stated about volta and navi are facts, not opinions. like Woodward and Bernstein you have to "follow the money", in these cases what i'm talking about can be gleaned from any trade pub and investment info. the fact of the matter is amd's "infinity fabric" is revolutionary and both nvidia and intel are racing to emulate it. again, not an opinion, just fact. whatever feathers are ruffled, so be it. but reading the amd roadmap, reiterated the last two years, is the fact that navi is going to be the first multi-core gpu. and they could, if desired, go full TR4 for the socket.

Nvidia is not racing to emulate they have had NV link for a while now.

#5477157

MasterBash

2017-09-30 02:53

RavenMaster:

1070Ti seems so lackluster especially when Volta is nearing readiness.

o_O I keep hearing both sides. Volta is coming soon for the consumers and Volta is coming in like 8 months... I don't know who to believe because I am due for an upgrade lol.

#5477232

RavenMaster

2017-09-30 12:01

MasterBash:

o_O I keep hearing both sides. Volta is coming soon for the consumers and Volta is coming in like 8 months... I don't know who to believe because I am due for an upgrade lol.

The 10 series cards have been out since march 2016 if I remember rightly. Usually each generation runs for a year. Volta is about half a year late already (purely because AMD had no answer to nvidias top end cards).

#5477283

Agent-A01

2017-09-30 17:19

Alex13:

ok we're just taking crap arent we, new system builders pointless point already answered by my first post if you actually bothered to read. And im really sorry i didnt take the bait for the brand war post, have fun.

I don't know what you're talking about brand war. You say don't buy Pascal because it's old. So your idea is to buy a product that is inferior in every way because it's 'new'? you're first post is "You'd have to be desperate and without a GPU to go buy pascal at this point in its lifecycle" Which goes in line with my above statement. Your post clearly has no logical value.

#5477285

Andrew LB

2017-09-30 17:33

tunejunky:

well i can see where you'd have that attitude. what i'm talking about are the physical properties of the gpu die. for example, volta is at the maximum size of any chip as it encompasses virtually the entire wafer...in order to actually sell them, they have to be sorted with certain sections disabled because of variations in yield...and those disabled sections are not consistent except for being at the periphery...which takes time and money and thus is not ready for primetime. like ryzen, vega is scalable. instead of "zeppelin" modules, you'd have the equivalent. meaning at 7nm, they could configure a gpu with multiple times the performance currently available at a far higher rate of yield, lowering costs, power, and temps with increased frequency. that is navi. that scares nvidia (justly) as they race to come up with an alternative.

The wafers these chips are made on are 300mm.

#5477392

Elder III

2017-10-01 03:09

Has anyone heard rumors on the MSRP for a normal GTX 1070 once the Ti comes out? I have a friend that's been waiting to upgrade their failing HD 7950 for many months now due to the high prices since springtime.

#5477458

Loophole35

2017-10-01 12:31

Elder III:

Has anyone heard rumors on the MSRP for a normal GTX 1070 once the Ti comes out? I have a friend that's been waiting to upgrade their failing HD 7950 for many months now due to the high prices since springtime.

I thought it officially was dropped a few months back to the $350 area but never got down there in retail due to mining.

#5477465

alanm

2017-10-01 13:12

Only reason for 1070ti probable release is to offer more a compelling alternative to Vega 56. If anyone thinks its a bad buy due to EOL, then Vega 56 is an even worse buy.

#5477519

Neo Cyrus

2017-10-01 18:43

Agent-A01:

EoL? What basis did you make that assumption off of? Volta is going to be out after GDDR6 mass production starts. You're looking at Q2 2018 for an equivalent of GV104. We aren't talking about a month or two, 9 months is a long time. Are you going to tell new system builders to stick with IGP until volta release?

Q2? God damn, is that confirmed? I was really hoping for something in Q1.

#5477599

Olievlekje

2017-10-02 05:28

This card will probably be very wanted by the cryptocurrency miners more core`s and GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR5X that most of the time is great for gaming but not really for mining. and a price that is more towards the 1070 instead of the 1080 will have a competitive ROI compared to the 580. so prices will probably be pushed towards the 500 euro due to our friendly neighborhood miners (srry just watched spiderman)

#5477616

Venix

2017-10-02 08:07

I have a feeling that 1070 ti will stealvall of 1080's sales they should be really close

#5477752

Raider0001

2017-10-02 17:20

jazh23:

MSRP= $399, Amazon Price= $499 to buy it at that price, you will have to go to the factory...

Vega 56 is 649$ in my shops if u include taxes and stuff 🙁 its probably cheaper for me to just fly over to China book a hotel room, buy a Vega and come back...

#5480125

fry178

2017-10-10 09:59

@Alex13 lol. you do realise there are more (re)sellers/builders than just Dell and the like. especially some of the large electronic/discounters in europe are known to offer hardware that isnt "brand new", but still enough for most ppl. besides that, if i now have someone like me that sold the 1070 to get a LC 1080 for 60@1440p (or that had a card/pc die etc), to not game/or run stuff at 30fps@720p until volta is out in decent numbers in about 10-12 month. and im definitely not "wasting" my money on an amd card that runs hotter/louder while consuming more power (vs Nv). lol again.