They are within 5% of each other. I'll take my 1070 because of how cool it runs. Don't get me wrong the 980Ti is a banging card. I wonder what the 1070 would have looked like with GDDR5X memory.

Or a 384-bit bus. 'member those? I'm quite saddened with the quality of the PCBs the last couple of years, from both companies. AMD couldn't even make a proper power delivery split for a new card, and NVIDIA is still selling sub-256bit bus cards for more than $200. 😛uke2:

Wouldn't count on it. Why not something like the 750 Ti though?

If I would have an 980ti there would be no point to upgrade to a 107o, diffrence is to small to justify that move. From perspective of a person buying new card no one in thier right mind would choose 980ti over 1070 tho. Driver updates favor pascal cards, 1070 got 2 more gigs of ram too, so overall it`s much more future proof.

There is no point in upgrading to 1080 either, for a new buyer yeah kinda agree, but if i could get cheaper 980ti i would still get that over 1070. Extra vram is overrated, gpu will be too slow anyway when vram starts to matter more at higher resolution. No there is no driver regression, this isnt kepler vs maxwell. Anyway Volta, yeah Q3 is doable, but I bet same again - midget GV104 sold as high end, then next year that real Volta chip. So in reality proper Volta will be released sometime in Q1-Q2 2018.

Or a 384-bit bus. 'member those? I'm quite saddened with the quality of the PCBs the last couple of years, from both companies. AMD couldn't even make a proper power delivery split for a new card, and NVIDIA is still selling sub-256bit bus cards for more than $200. 😛uke2:

The speeds on VRAM and the color compression that both camps are doing now kinda makes the bus width obsolete. Plus 384 bit uses more power than 256 and lower.

There is no point in upgrading to 1080 either, for a new buyer yeah kinda agree, but if i could get cheaper 980ti i would still get that over 1070. Extra vram is overrated, gpu will be too slow anyway when vram starts to matter more at higher resolution. No there is no driver regression, this isnt kepler vs maxwell. Anyway Volta, yeah Q3 is doable, but I bet same again - midget GV104 sold as high end, then next year that real Volta chip. So in reality proper Volta will be released sometime in Q1-Q2 2018.

Meh I've gotten more life out of my Gx104 based GPU's than the larger chips. However you are entitled to your opinion. Also isn't Volta a node change again? If so it makes sense to launch the smaller chip first as it's not as large a fiscal hit on poor yields. Think the Kepler GK100 was not even viable and GK110 had to happen. Maxwell was really the only gen that should have had all iterations of the GPU launch at once.

For those who talk about 1080ti . The latter is the end of the line of the 1000 product line , so was the 980ti and 780ti . In fact , it was a lesson to me to never by the last product in the line as it will discontinue soon.

weird as for me it has been clear that buying anything else that a Ti is throwing money away, the 1080Ti is my 1st Ti but it won't be the last GTX ex-high end of the line for those who remember is now a beta version of the titan which is a beta version of the Ti, still looks smarter to me to buy the best version of the chipset rather than an "early access" one I think I'm in the majority who bought a GTX 980 and felt cheated when the Ti was released, if it was 10-15% ok but it's not it's 20-30% fast which is a lot especially when you have high-end gaming requirements for me it's +-100fps to have the ULMB working right on my 120Hzmonitor, for others it's 144Hz+G-Sync or 90+ for VR That said, they are going mad we are close to 3 "revisions" in 1 year :eek3: they will kill their own market like that, yes people will still buy them because no competition but I mean "internally" with factories,stocks,resellers it can't work as they will produce a ton of cards that are obsolete 3 month after people can really buy them if you see what I mean, reviews are nice and all but availability is often months later With that in mind what are they going to do with "obsolete" GTXs and Tis nobody is going to buy them we have already seen that with the 980Tis that were sold roughly the same price as the early 1080s, impossible to sell anymore day1 release of the 1080s, if they keep releasing new cards faster and faster I don't see how "logistically" (sorry english not my mother tongue) it can work. I bought a MSI gaming x 1080Ti recently because one shop had the good idea to not have them on "pre-order" but simply added them on their online shop when they had a few in stock today I checked various resellers in Switzerland 1 has -170 Asus Strix 1080Ti (aka 170 people waiting for theirs I had one too but after talking to an honest vendor that warned me of the delay and told me that insane amount of orders I cancelled) 1 other has currently overall including all Ti models roughly the same amount of people waiting -58 -25 -40 etc... I know that they receive around 10 cards per week, some people are going to wait until july august O_O