Exactly, these new budget cards are so lame compared to almost anything from the 660 and before that can´t even handle old games at full settings and 3 year old console resolutions. These days Nvidia seems to be making cards as gimped as they can and you´ll see people defending these parts, but that´s just because they don´t game with them.

Exactly, these new budget cards are so lame compared to almost anything from the 660 and before that can´t even handle old games at full settings and 3 year old console resolutions. These days Nvidia seems to be making cards as gimped as they can and you´ll see people defending these parts, but that´s just because they don´t game with them.

People thinking a XX50 should bet xx60/70 from last gen are just asking to much of budget card.

I not saying that as I had a 450gts ( was rma for my evga 9800gt that died) for 1 year before I got a 660gts. while it had better frames rates for most stuff compared to the 9800gt it was horrible framerates compared to the 9800gt when I started added AA and other things that need bandwidth. This is why I think 128bit bus and lower gpu need to go way of dodo bird. Nividia isnt gimping cards either. I also dont buy Nvidia reduces performance of there older cards in new drivers cause all my game play exactly like they do the day i got the card, if not lil better. xx50=entry/budget card xx60=mid car xx70= mid to high range card xx80= high card titans= nvidia know people crazy and will buy a 1200$ card that will be beaten by a 400$ in less then year All the card in those range have to do is beat last gen which exactly what they do and by bigger margins then what we get from intel gen to gen. People thinking a XX50 should bet xx60/70 from last gen are just asking to much of budget card.

I gamed with a 750Ti for about four months while my 690 was dead. I had no issues. That 750Ti is now in a friends computer, she plays Overwatch/WoW/CS:GO/Warframe and a few other games at 1080p all at 60+ frames and mostly the highest settings. Witcher 3 is a year old and my GTX1080 sometimes drops to ~45fps at the highest settings on QHD. I don't know why you'd expect a card a quarter of the price to play it at 60fps at 1080p. If the 1050Ti was as good as you want it to be, no one would even buy a 1070 or a 1080. I don't see the issue. If you want a better card, pay $50 more and get an RX480/1060.

So how 1050 Ti was created? Everyone know, that to cut production cost of failures, they sell the same graphic core with locked block where is failure... You can just look for transistor count - 1070 is failed version of 1080, 1080 Ti is failed version of Titan, 1060 3GB is failed version of 1060 6GB, but 1050 Ti? It looks like unlocked version of 1050.... or 1050 if failed version of 1060? Then 1050 Ti is less failure of failure?

Exactly, these new budget cards are so lame compared to almost anything from the 660 and before that can´t even handle old games at full settings and 3 year old console resolutions. These days Nvidia seems to be making cards as gimped as they can and you´ll see people defending these parts, but that´s just because they don´t game with them.http://forums.guru3d.com/images/smilies/banana2.gif

LMAO. I've seen you defending your PC quite a few times, nevermind this new card. What you're accusing others of doing...you do exactly the same with your current setup. "shrug".

Are you the same guy from that mortal kombat thread that said that my processor shouldn´t be able to handle that game?.

I don't think any of this matters anyway. It's a 2gb card. Who wants to buy a 2gb card nowadays? I have a 4gb 960 which I'm fairly happy with considering what I payed for it. Next upgrade will be a x70 depending on finances. I wouldn't even consider a 2gb card as games are so demanding now, it's going to be very hard to run any new game on a 2gb card without lowering textures.

No, I'm from the Doom thread. You've got your head screwed-on. These "50" series cards are 100% budget orientated cards. I consider them (expectation-wise) to give a console-quality experience. Anyone who needs more or is a more serious gamer should look at 60/70/80 series (and only 60 series if sticking to 1080p). Seriously guys, you get what you paid for.

Again, it´s obvious you have not been gaming with such cards. And I think you are the guy from the deus ex thread, yeah defending my pc lol: http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5332929&postcount=851

If xx50 not perform better than last gen xx50 then what is the point to buy new more expensive card? Better buy old card... But marketing will tell new one is better because new or "Ti" is more cool

You will defend your position ofcourse, but, you're just as willing to blast the GTX1050 which is the same target market as your own GTX950. Also, I don't need to game with one to know the score. A simple youtube search will tell anyone what to expect within 10mins. For more "fair" comparisons look for reviews and benchmarks where settings are the same so you can compare to other cards. These cards will give a console-like experience in terms of performance with latest games. That's 30fps@1080p. Anymore extra performance should be seen as a bonus and PC benefit. If you want more than 30fps, then, either turn gfx settings lower/off or play older games. If you want a comfortable 60fps@1080p with bells and whistles, then, a GTX1060 would be the lowest viable card right now. Finally, also bare in-mind most benchmarks are done with the latest cpu's. The cpu is just as important to get the best out of these cards. p.s. Doom is a 60fps@1080p game on consoles (with dynamic resolution to sustain 60fps). So, yeah, your GTX950 is console-experience.

In Doom the gtx950 can´t even match console because the only way to get rid of the intermittent stuttering is to turn reflections to low. So you just can´t put a number and say that X card is the one you need to get because that is totally arbitrary, however what we can do is to ask that our (my) entry level and (your) midrange card to stop getting crappier and crappier compared to the high end every new generation because that´s just going backwards, can´t believe that people is defending that 🙄

Entitlement to my own opininion?, but it´s not even my opinion, entry and midrange segments keep getting crappier and crappier, but not cheaper, and that´s a fact.

It´s just that this thing should blow the moustache off an overclocked 950... new node and all for this?.

Here's a fact for you; 50/60/70 and 80 series gets faster every generation. That's forwards, not backwards. That's better, not crappier. What you're actually moaning about is the "performance-gap" between cards and prices.

Why do you believe this? This has never been the case before, so why should it be now?