Creative Technologies Introduces the Sound Blaster Audigy Fx V2 Card at 25 USD

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Astyanax:

I take it you don't have an understanding of compression limits and the age of spdif/optical. HDMI has long since made optical redundant.
Sample rate has nothing to do with compression... you're thinking of bit rate. EDIT: 2-channel PCM over SPDIF is uncompressed. HDMI did obsolete optical, if you've got a sound system that supports it. Even late 90s systems are still plenty good enough for today, so why replace something that ain't broke?
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My z5500s with DDL via toslink absolutely destroys anything, any of you have for audio. Thanks for playing.
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Silva:

1000W RMS? Do link your setup as I'm curious!
no link its assembled components built over many years but it does include 2 logitech z5500 subs and a mixture of dynaudio and klipsch
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TimmyP:

My z5500s with DDL via toslink absolutely destroys anything, any of you have for audio. Thanks for playing.
Started off with one of those awesome system, I still have one running in the lounge as a 5.1 system run with Tos via the TV and it rocks
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schmidtbag:

Sample rate has nothing to do with compression... you're thinking of bit rate.
The determining formula involves both sample rate, depth as well as amount of channels in the encapsulated stream, optical tops out at around 12Mb/s which can get you 192khz sample rate at 24bits with 2 channels. 6 channels limits you to 48khz at 24bits because 96khz exceeds the cables bit/s capacity unless using a compressed stream (hence Dolby) The transport stream has no acknowledgement of the audio source bitrate as the data is carried as words within the sample rate after this compression is involved. Toslink is unable to carry pcm multichannel audio.
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Astyanax:

The determining formula involves both sample rate, depth as well as amount of channels in the encapsulated stream, optical tops out at around 12Mb/s which can get you 192khz sample rate at 24bits with 2 channels. 6 channels limits you to 48khz at 24bits because 96khz exceeds the cables bit/s capacity unless using a compressed stream (hence Dolby) The transport stream has no acknowledgement of the audio source bitrate as the data is carried as words within the sample rate after this compression is involved. Toslink is unable to carry pcm multichannel audio.
Right, with 6 channels, you will see compression. Though, 48KHz at 24-bit is still plenty good enough. As I said before, you don't need more than 48KHz when listening. Perhaps DD/DTS could benefit from the extra resolution, but seeing as it's 90s tech, probably not.
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still 5.1 only on analogue :V
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suty455:

no link its assembled components built over many years but it does include 2 logitech z5500 subs and a mixture of dynaudio and klipsch
I have the Logitech Z5500 set still working and I'd say 500W RMS is plenty for a room. Be careful not to cook your ears, I have a small 800W RMS PA (just 2 HK PRO 12 speakers) and it makes my ears hurt when I push it (its not meant to use in my house anyway).
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schmidtbag:

Right, with 6 channels, you will see compression. Though, 48KHz at 24-bit is still plenty good enough. As I said before, you don't need more than 48KHz when listening. Perhaps DD/DTS could benefit from the extra resolution, but seeing as it's 90s tech, probably not.
yea, anyway we've gone far from my point which is that a sound card in 2021 doesn't need to cater to legacy home theatre systems.
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weird product, I don't see what it's point is, it looks as bad or worse than onboard audio on a desktop, my reason for still having a soundcard (soundblaster zxr) is the headphone amp, it doesn't distort or modify the sound replacing bass at high volume for mid-treble like onboard and usb soundcard do for lack of current instead you the user will turn the volume knob down unless you want to destroy your ears and that's how it should be, you decide not the hardware limitations
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TimmyP:

My z5500s with DDL via toslink absolutely destroys anything, any of you have for audio. Thanks for playing.
z5500 uses full range drivers for the sats and is crap vs hifi speakers with dedicated tweeters. It may be OK for the average non-discriminating listener, but you wont get the upper range air and detail that speakers with tweeters can provide. Plus z5500 is outdated and does not have the full featured surround formats that todays AV receivers provide. Also toslink is only lossless in 2 ch mode, while HDMI allows full bandwidth in 6 channels.
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alanm:

z5500 uses full range drivers for the sats and is crap vs hifi speakers with dedicated tweeters. It may be OK for the average non-discriminating listener, but you wont get the upper range air and detail that speakers with tweeters can provide. Plus z5500 is outdated and does not have the full featured surround formats that todays AV receivers provide.
Get a set of Edifier S760D instead the only decent alternative is no longer produced (Creative Gigaworks S550/S750)

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