1USMUS thanks for ur hard work man, you rock!

kcthebrewer:

I want this but I still want my single core boost. I really wish AMD would work with him to make both happen.

Under-volt slightly via BIOS and take it from there, see how low you can get without it crashing out or sacrificing clock speeds on boosts with single / all core numbers. The cooler Ryzen runs, the better your boost speeds. I had hit 87~90C with prime 95 small FFTS (yes I deliberately* TRIED to overheat it) on a 3950x with a Noctua D-15S (and barely any thermal paste!) and my clocks dropped like a rock down to 3600~3300mhz or so. Every 5~10C or so of additional heat means another 25~50mhz drop in speed depending on your processor. Long story short, if you want your single core boosts, don't overclock the chip. Your system will likely run better outside of render work without an all-core overclock. I know I wouldn't dare try overclocking my 3950x, nope nope, it would cook me outta this room in short order somethin' serious. That said when I had my 3700x I had to wear a hoodie in here unless I was running BeamNG Drive with lots of traffic (which uses all these cores, up until you hit the DX11 draw call limit for your system/map). The way I see it is If Ryzen Zen 2 isn't fast enough, you're doing something wrong with your game engine/scene. AMD should hire this guy (1usmus) if they haven't already! I can't thank AMD enough to be able to put a 16-core 32-thread 3950x in my existing 8-core 16-thread 3700x system when I needed it, without having to replace the motherboard etc, so I could get more done. That having to replace motherboards constantly to get a better CPU is a fool's errand.

You know I bought a 3600 just so PBR can do the work for me, but I like this. I'm excited.

Well, AMD, if this is not a professional who you would like to hire in "shut up and take our money" approch, then you have no clue how to do business. Either that or AMD sponsored the development of CTR behind the curtain.

This looks amazing! Stuff like this is right up there with fast cars, screaming guitars, wife cardio, red meat, and jello. I look forward to testing it out next month. 🙂

Looks promising, however it's "tuned", not "tunned". "Tunned" means "being hit in the face with a tuna" 😀. Btw. I second the notion that AMD should hire this guy. His work with both the RAM calculator and this should be more than qualifying.

Silva:

@north wiebesick Go to your BIOS and set a negative CPU voltage offset. Start with -0.05 and test Cinebench. You may lose a few points but temperatures should decrease. If you want to explore more, try -0.1. I have my Ryzen 2600 with -0.1 and rocks. Hope this software is updated for Zen later, or maybe sometime in the future when I update from my 2600 I can use it. Awesome software.

I know how to do that in general, but since my last build before this, which I did overclock, was in like 2004, all these new fancy BIOS pages with about 25 or more manual settings are a B*!(# to figure out when, like me, your short term memory sucks... That is why I'd like to have this ASAP... The least amount of guess work I have to do, the better I'll like it, and if nothing else, it should, I hope, give me a list of things to manually tune in BIOS... Like I say, I have overclocked on AMD before, but it was a 2ghz processor in around 2004, so settings options were limited... Of course, I was also limited by the biostar motherboard, but I've since learned that the brand and motherboard model matters greatly, in overclocking without ruining something...I am using an 5700xt MSI Gaming MECH OC 8G graphics card too, so since it's balls to the walls, I'm probably getting close to the limit of my Fractal Design ION+ 660P Platinum PSU too, I'll bet, so I was hoping it would help there too, if need be... I'm actually not sure the best way to check how much total wattage my system is using, or drawing...

Thanks to this guy's calc. I managed to push my Micron E die RAM from 3200 XMP (73-75ns latency) to 3600 CL16-19-19 and still at 1.35v (68.9~ns latency) by using a Manual import + Calculate Safe. And reduce stock SoC voltage from 1.2v to 1.05v with a fabric clock of 1800Mhz (in my ASRock B450 ITX motherboard using VDDG, VDDP and SOC voltages, aligned with DRAM Calculator).

This is an interesting tool for those who overclock as a hobby, but seriously, are you going to consider your system 100% stable when this program only tests for stability for a few minutes, and with only one program, for each change it makes??? It takes hours and hours of stability testing with several programs, each loading your CPU differently, to be sure a system is truly stable. I'll leave my 3700x at stock. An extra few percentage points in benchmarks will not make a truly noticeable difference in normal daily use, unless you're the type to set in front of your computer with a stopwatch, timing everything it does.

1usmus is the MAN! Creator of masterpieces!! 1usmus Ryzen DRAM Calculator is excellent and Micron E-die is Ryzen best friend... Here with the Calculator both the Crucial(batch 2020) 2x8 3000MHz BL8G30C15U4B and 2x16 3200MHz BL16G32C16U4R were able to reach 3733MHz 1.37V on the Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS and MSI B450 TomaHawk MAX, but on the MSI I don't know which is the true voltage value because the displayed value was higher than the one defined in the BIOS. They can even go further, but above 3733MHz seems too much in the edge for my taste with Ryzen 3000 series. http://i.imgur.com/pYwlHjMt.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/RL4kpWRt.png Here the 3600(BF 2004 PGT) runs all cores locked at 4.2GHz voltages up to +- 1.1625V No crashes with Prim95 and AVX2 enabled... I am curious to try the new program and create a new non locked core profile. http://i.imgur.com/IQGpUuSt.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vV4E8Lvt.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ADGWZFet.png

I just got Comet Lake for a great price, thanks TSMC, good luck with this one core counters 😉 (I dislike Intel as a company just to be clear)

Thank you Negativ, enjoy supporting financially the company you dislike.

would be intersted in trying this as a undervolting utility (performance wise my 3900X seems fine...efficiency wise as well but i'm under the impression less volts/powerdraw should only be able to lead to instability and not long term damage).

Sounds good & would be fun to play about with!

anub1s18:

would be intersted in trying this as a undervolting utility (performance wise my 3900X seems fine...efficiency wise as well but i'm under the impression less volts/powerdraw should only be able to lead to instability and not long term damage).

Every die is different, yours can be on the edge and not be able to undervolt well, or could take a good chunk of heat out of your system.

Cant wait to try it for sure 😀

Will this void my warranty?

Silva:

Every die is different, yours can be on the edge and not be able to undervolt well, or could take a good chunk of heat out of your system.

true, i am already running -0.125 but i feel i'm getting ignored in my request for less voltage. i did find a difference in temp and cinebench score between -0.100 and -0.125 not so much with -0.15, all worked, all booted, all seemed to show the same voltage idle/load but in the case of -0.125 it did drop it's temp slightly and managed the highest cinebench i've gotten out of it yet (not really that interested in cinebench scores in general but am using it as a quick indication of is this hurting or helping performance)

Amazing tool, looking forward to the release. I am curious to see if it works for laptop ryzen flavours too.

@anub1s18 I'm using -0.1 offset and it shows on the max voltage peaks. Temperature is slightly less, but I use an aggressive fan curve anyway.