Call of Duty and Overwatch no longer on GeForce NOW game streaming service

Denial

2020-02-14 03:35

umeng2002:

Ha Ha Ha. What are you going to do? Spend your time on money on new and innovative franchises and companies? 🙄

Yeah? That's what I've been doing.

#5760106

cryohellinc

2020-02-14 06:39

Ricepudding:

My deep dive into WoW was WOTLK, i put a silly amount of hours into that game, but it was very enjoyable, it's a shame that a company with rather amazing IP has gone this way, but seems to be how games go now, 1 maybe 2 great games then a terrible third due to silly microtransactions.... Dead space is a perfect example of this

Probably unpopular, but I have enjoyed all 3 of the Dead Space games. I used Ahoy version for the third game, and it was great - minus some silly bugs (the door sound bug (now it can be fixed by a mod)) and some predisposition for micro transactions. I liked the story in it. Hopefully some day we will see its continuation.

#5760142

rl66

2020-02-14 09:30

Both are bad game, then it's not a real lost. Few week ago my son were looking to a video were an Overwatch's developer was trying to justifie that if you shoot with an angle of nearly 15° right or left, you still hit the target, just because there is people that never play shooter that play Overwatch...

#5760144

rl66

2020-02-14 09:36

HITASIA:

I don't like this mentality, Putting blizzard on this pedalstal and blaming Activision. I think Blizzard got greedy themselves and would have gone this way with or without Activision

Totaly agree and the Blizzard image is stuck to WoW, wich is old (or vintage lol) and way too expensive, so people have started to leave the game (despite some have come back to classic server, i agree too)... they need money (and it's not the Warcraft 3 review unanimously bad to so so, that will help them lol).

#5760194

Venix

2020-02-14 11:56

I do not know if Activision ruined blizzard or it was bound to happen.... But i remember a blizzard that was unable to release a bad game and everyone (almost) would buy their games blindly you knew it will be good. I remember a company that had the slogan "when is done" canceling games when they thought the quality of it does not meet their standards ( StarCraft ghost) .....those days are long gone it seems 🙁

#5760216

mackintosh

2020-02-14 12:41

The only reason they pulled their games is because Geforce NOW doesn't require us to buy yet another license from them to use something we have already been bled dry and bent over for. Pure greed. Absolutely nothing else.

#5760422

rl66

2020-02-14 22:28

tunejunky:

the real competition for Nvidia here is Google (with the help of AMD servers and gpus)

Google stadia is a pure crap on every point, the interface, the game, the price, the stream... even Apple Arcade is better. It is no way a serious competitor for NVidia, it's like comparing a NES (without Zelda of course) with a PS4 or a XBox One.

#5760478

vbetts

Moderator

2020-02-15 02:32

rl66:

Google stadia is a pure crap on every point, the interface, the game, the price, the stream... even Apple Arcade is better. It is no way a serious competitor for NVidia, it's like comparing a NES (without Zelda of course) with a PS4 or a XBox One.

All of these points are very biased and are all opinion though. You can't present these as fact. Cloud gaming from any company is still in its infancy, personally I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Google being the first to have their streaming service run the best.

#5760541

rl66

2020-02-15 12:24

vbetts:

All of these points are very biased and are all opinion though. You can't present these as fact. Cloud gaming from any company is still in its infancy, personally I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Google being the first to have their streaming service run the best.

I think it will end like all products that Google launch with big investements but not thinking "user" way... Google movie, Google music, Google read, Google translator etc etc... It's not enough. Amazon is way more "agressive" than Google and have more ability to win the war i guess they will be a better competitor in the future. It's not biased, i don't like all the competitor: Amazon, Google, Apple, NVidia, Ubisoft, Sony and M$ 🙂

#5760570

Fox2232

2020-02-15 13:33

cryohellinc:

And I don't like when you twist my words - I wasn't putting Blizzard on pedestal. The Blizzard I loved and adored is dead after the merger. Nobody can know that, they were doing great before the merger. It's not Blizzard anymore, it's Activision with a subsidiary called Blizzard, which at this point shares only their name with Blizzard of old. Different teams, different policies, different design approach.

I remember there being Blizzard North. Yet they were really not Blizzard. When someone buys something to own it for gain of whatever sort, it does end way it does. ... When Nurture turns into Torture of games.

rl66:

I think it will end like all products that Google launch with big investements but not thinking "user" way... Google movie, Google music, Google read, Google translator etc etc... It's not enough. Amazon is way more "agressive" than Google and have more ability to win the war i guess they will be a better competitor in the future. It's not biased, i don't like all the competitor: Amazon, Google, Apple, NVidia, Ubisoft, Sony and M$ 🙂

Amazon even has its own game studio. I wonder if "New World" will be as good as it looks.

#5760616

tunejunky

2020-02-15 16:23

the point i was making was highlighted by vbetts. the current (crap) state of game streaming is no different than when Netflix started streaming in the early 2000's. the picture was far better on blu-ray/dvd. that said, i could still see "on demand" as a key feature. GeForce Now (which i have) is every bit as buggy and has a small collection of games. that will change as it will when Amazon enters the market, and as i said, Sony and M$ have game streaming as a central feature of their new consoles. Google Stadia (of which i was a beta tester) likewise, excepting i had zero lag... no doubt because of my proximity to Google itself (and several server farms). Assassin's Creed was fully playable and i was getting well over 80fps, but that is the exception not the rule. i have no doubt that acti/blizz is working on how best to leverage their IP in this new paradigm. they certainly don't want to split the subscription, but eventually will either be left behind in the legacy stand alone market or agree to share with some arcane formula for profit sharing (who better? lol).

#5760678

HeavyHemi

2020-02-15 21:59

vbetts:

All of these points are very biased and are all opinion though. You can't present these as fact. Cloud gaming from any company is still in its infancy, personally I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Google being the first to have their streaming service run the best.

He didn't say they were facts. He was expressing his opinion. You can't present your opinion of his post as fact either. See how that works? Unless someone explicitly states they are stating a fact, I assume everything they post is an opinion. Lastly, everyone has a bias, everyone. And that, is a fact. As one who spent too much time as a slave to a VT100...well I can understand the bias against game streaming.

#5760698

sykozis

2020-02-15 23:15

mackintosh:

The only reason they pulled their games is because Geforce NOW doesn't require us to buy yet another license from them to use something we have already been bled dry and bent over for. Pure greed. Absolutely nothing else.

According to the article, GF Now allows people to play games they don't have a license for. I can see that being a breaking point for a lot of studios and publishers since they're in business to make a profit..... A company expecting to make a profit off of their product isn't "pure greed".... It's how companies stay in business and grow.....

#5760741

Astyanax

2020-02-16 03:13

sykozis:

According to the article, GF Now allows people to play games they don't have a license for. I can see that being a breaking point for a lot of studios and publishers since they're in business to make a profit.....

The article is incorrect, you need to own any game you play on GFN on one of the supported launchers, and in some cases games that may be on two or more launchers may only be supported on one of them.

#5760855

rm082e

2020-02-16 15:45

Turns out Nvidia assumed they would be cool with keeping these games on their service when they launched it, but didn't have a contract in place with Activision: You can blame Nvidia, not just Activision Blizzard, for their GeForce Now falling-out

Here’s a statement from Nvidia: "Activision Blizzard has been a fantastic partner during the GeForce Now beta, which we took to include the free trial period for our founders membership. Recognizing the misunderstanding, we removed the games from our service, with hope we can work with them to re-enable these, and more, in the future." That reconciliation may not happen, though. According to Bloomberg — which reported the “misunderstanding” earlier — Activision Blizzard wanted to negotiate a new commercial agreement before Nvidia could serve up the games, and Nvidia has been pretty clear that its business model is to not have commercial agreements with game publishers. Instead, it wants to let gamers buy their games on existing platforms like Steam, Epic, UPlay and Battle.net and play them on GeForce Now the same way they’d play them on their home PC, giving publishers the same amount of money they’d have normally. An Activision Blizzard spokesperson tells us there’s no commercial agreement like that in place.

I'm all in for the Activision hate train, but Nvidia should have had this clarified with an agreement in place before they put it out there. This is a bone-headed move on their part.

#5760858

tunejunky

2020-02-16 16:01

Astyanax:

The article is incorrect, you need to own any game you play on GFN on one of the supported launchers, and in some cases games that may be on two or more launchers may only be supported on one of them.

not only that, but "free" GeForce now has limited playtime. "founders" (lol) get unlimited gameplay

#5760861

Astyanax

2020-02-16 16:21

rm082e:

I'm all in for the Activision hate train, but Nvidia should have had this clarified with an agreement in place before they put it out there. This is a bone-headed move on their part.

if thats what you took from that, then you didn't comprehend what was being said

#5760867

rm082e

2020-02-16 16:36

Astyanax:

if thats what you took from that, then you didn't comprehend what was being said

Would you care to clarify?