Both AMD Ryzen 5 2600X and and Ryzen 7 2700X Spotted In GeekBench

D3M1G0D

2018-03-15 18:11

The results look impressive, but I'll wait for official numbers before making any conclusions (also, it's Geekbench, which isn't the most reliable benchmark around 😛).

warlord:

AMD still needs support from their fan-base and poor peasants or console lovers. The PC master race cannot be changed.

PCMR for life! 😎 Seriously now, I made the change last year, and I proudly display my 1950X in my flair.

ToxicTaZ:

I'm only in the House of performance. Are you in the lacking performance house? Sounds like it to me.

I am also in the house of performance, which is why I made the switch to red last year. AMD just offers so much more performance for the price that it's a no-brainer - I could have bought a 7900X for the same price as my 1950X, but it doesn't perform nearly as well for computing (plus I would have had to get the hobbled X299 platform! 😯). Of course the 7980XE beats it, but I can buy two 1950Xs for the same price, especially during holiday sales (32 cores vs 18 cores... no contest). As for gaming, I rely on my 1080 Ti for that, as I like to play at high res and high detail (high FPS as well, although I'm happy as long as I get consistent 60+ frames on my 144 Hz monitor 😉).

#5528589

ZXRaziel

2018-03-15 19:02

warlord:

Nothing special. 8600k and 8700k are faster considering single core performance plus less cores/threads respectively than their counterparts. Only better than Ryzen. Just a half reason more to go red. Still the best move is being blue, like being graphically green than red. AMD still needs support from their fan-base and poor peasants or console lovers. The PC master race cannot be changed.

Hahahaha .

#5528596

Aura89

2018-03-15 19:35

ToxicTaZ:

Actually 1800X dual channel is DDR3 speeds still! Bound to DDR4 3200MHz still @14-14-14-34...

..... wow The nonsense just keeps getting worse. All i can take from your statement is that you don't understand how memory works. Nor do you understand the overall impact of memory (RAM on PC, not GPU RAM)to most, including gaming, performance. If you're going to state what you stated, please, back it up. Explain your thought process, because the only thing you keep saying is nonsense without explaining your statement more thoroughly and much, much less "insert random statement here" Seemingly, it sounds as though all you care about are timings and CAS, so how about you go back to DDR2 with 3-3-3-12 if that is all that matters to you.

#5528600

Aura89

2018-03-15 19:53

ToxicTaZ:

All I here is price price price? Yet Yet claim to Owning a quad channels setup is proof that money no object otherwise you would own 1800X on Dual channel setup.

Ofcourse he's talking about price, wtf is going on with your ability to understand simple logic? And why care if someone says something about price when talking about quad-channel? wtf are you even going on about? In every situation, AMD is not matched at their price point. He specifically said he could have gone with the 7900x over the 1950x, since they are very similar priced systems. But if he had, he would have had a much lower performing system. How difficult is that to understand? Why is it so hard for you to understand something so simple?

ToxicTaZ:

I don't believe you're red team true either not owning red team Vega 64 Liquid is proof of that. Turning blind eye to the green team. You can say you live in a mansion and drive Bugatti Veronica and then talk about price pretty much sums it up.

Here we go with the House of Intel cult statements again. Serious question, are you on something right now? Please, read back what you said. wtf does being on a "insert color here" team have to do with literally anything? And what is there for you to "believe" or not "believe" What insanity is going on here?

AsiJu:

What the hell just happened?

Couldn't tell you, it's like the circus came to town and someone spiked their drinks. I feel like the ToxicTaZ and Warlord guy are the same guy considering how similarly they talk. All this talk about whatever color "team" you're on and for some reason invalidating people who support AMD if they are not fully on the "red" team all the way around, as if that's how reality works.

#5528604

Darkiee

2018-03-15 20:09

AsiJu:

"I don't care about how much it costs because I have money." - ToxicTaZ 2018

I really appreciate when ppl comes to boast on their infinite cash...

#5528608

Prince Valiant

2018-03-15 20:18

ToxicTaZ:

Sounds like your saying DDR4 3200MHz CL14 is faster than DDR3 3200MHz CL13? Your not paying attention. I asked if dual channel 2700X will support 4GHz+ RAM speeds! You people's trying to defend there's no need because we can't do it. 1800X came out it couldn't even do more than 2400MHz... Some bug... Seems to be fixed. Yes I'm running ultra low latency 4133MHz 17-17-17-37 RAM I know what speed is and curious if AMD will run higher speeds? Don't need your opinion. I'll ask again will 2700X support higher clocks speeds at least the same as Threadripper 3600MHz? Or Bound to 3200MHz speeds?

The 2700X isn't available yet. No one can answer your question.

#5528620

Aura89

2018-03-15 21:23

ToxicTaZ:

Sounds like your saying DDR4 3200MHz CL14 is faster than DDR3 3200MHz CL13?

Sounds to me that you have issues with DDR4, not AMD. The same things you keep talking about are issues with Intel processors as well, because it's DDR4s problem, not the processors. As well, DDR3 officially only supported up to 2133. The fact that you could find it higher is moot point considering DDR4 officially only supports up to 3200, yet can also be found higher. And focusing ONLY on speeds and the latency is, as well, pointless. https://m.eet.com/media/1185816/0113_mem_instryde_table1.jpg So i'm sorry you're saddened and upset about DDR4? How that has anything to do with AMD or Intel is beyond me.

ToxicTaZ:

Yes I'm running ultra low latency 4133MHz 17-17-17-37 RAM I know what speed is and curious if AMD will run higher speeds? Don't need your opinion.

That's funny. You say you understand, yet you show us how you have a uselessly fast ram speed. Is your real issue that you believe you can't get ram speeds past 3200 on ryzen? because that's not true, just looks around. Though it's effectively, again, pointless. So you're freaking out over something that's....pointless.

#5528642

RzrTrek

2018-03-15 23:04

How will Ryzen 2 compare clock for clock vs. the first generation?

#5528667

jortego128

2018-03-16 01:24

I believe first gen Ryzen officially supported 2666MHz RAM, not just 2400.

#5528691

Fox2232

2018-03-16 06:19

nhanphan1990:

Since it is the same architecture, my wild guess is 0 difference...

So what's performance difference between 2 chips: 1st supports FMA3 and it has bug fixed via BIOS update 2nd supports FMA3 properly and has FMA4

#5528724

fantaskarsef

2018-03-16 09:22

AsiJu:

Too early to tell, but leaks would hint at 5 - 10 % IPC improvement, give or take. Wait for official Guru3D review, shouldn't be long now 🙂

This, as always, wait for Hilbert's review. As the processor's are leaked to be available at amazon Germany on the 19th of April, it might just be around a month from now, probably some NDA around until then.

#5528730

Fox2232

2018-03-16 09:42

AsiJu:

Too early to tell, but leaks would hint at 5 - 10 % IPC improvement, give or take. Wait for official Guru3D review, shouldn't be long now 🙂

I would not go as high as 10% in my estimation. But from look of it on GB4 site, bench was run with 2400MHz memory. Since Infinity Fabric was (and likely still is) bound to memory clock, I think those results are extra good. And memory used had even quite bad latency considering its clock.

#5528775

Amx85

2018-03-16 14:00

RzrTrek:

How will Ryzen 2 compare clock for clock vs. the first generation?

is just a DIE Shrink but if they fixed the memory controller and infity fabric, they gona gain IPC grettings

#5528776

RzrTrek

2018-03-16 14:02

Amx85:

is just a DIE Shrink but if they fixed the memory controller and infity fabric, they gona gain IPC

3200MHz DDR4 out of the box?

#5528784

D3M1G0D

2018-03-16 14:46

AsiJu:

Anyhow, yes Zen+ will surely do 3600+ (with CL14 depending on what modules one uses) as some first gen Ryzen systems can do that as well. Likely being picky with RAM is advised still (in other words Samsung B-die) but do your homework and save a lot of trouble, so to speak.

3600 would be pretty nice. I recently put together a 2400G system with 3200 MHz CL14 memory on a B350 board, and this is first-gen Zen. I would expect at least this much on Zen+, although it will still depend on the RAM, as you said. Can't wait for the official benchmarks 🙂

#5528792

Agent-A01

2018-03-16 15:28

ToxicTaZ:

Not sure what your talking about? Are you still mad about the DDR3 3200MHz CL13 quotation? Just let it go man and be happy. Like I said before many times that was 3 years ago technology.

DDR4 > DDR3 with the exact same primary timings. Tertiary timings are by far superior on newer platforms that utilize DDR4. With CPUs having much stronger IMCs, more efficient clock timings for secondary and tertiary is possible. Not to mention with much better noise isolation and signal integrity, DDR4 can clock higher and is more stable.

#5528803

vbetts

Moderator

2018-03-16 16:59

Woah. I missed some things here. It's been pretty good past few posts, but let's make that trend here and keep on that path!

#5528814

Aura89

2018-03-16 17:59

People forget that major releases (and sometimes not even the major ones) on intels side have had pretty significant issues with memory(and other things) as well, at the beginning.

#5528855

Pinscher

2018-03-16 23:14

ToxicTaZ:

I asked if dual channel 2700X will support 4GHz+ RAM speeds! You people's trying to defend there's no need because we can't do it.

Supposedly it will according to some leaks I read. Nothing definitive, though.

#5528856

Pinscher

2018-03-16 23:16

nhanphan1990:

Since it is the same architecture, my wild guess is 0 difference...

I did the math, .5% lol Just kidding...