#4635901

Madcal

2013-08-12 18:16

Thanks eclap, you have gave me some really good options

#4635902

eclap

2013-08-12 18:16

My current build is only 4 months old. With my gpu being the only carry over. Everything is stock and running at fatory setting. I havent oc'ed anything up to this point.

yeah, I would squeeze that 8150 as much as you can. it's a pretty poor cpu, ovreclocking would help, definitely.

#4635907

Madcal

2013-08-12 18:21

I would have to buy a aftermarket heatsink, im to worried about firing the cpu with the stock one. But thats a tread for another day lol

#4635909

Loophole35

2013-08-12 18:23

yeah, I would squeeze that 8150 as much as you can. it's a pretty poor cpu, ovreclocking would help, definitely.

Or sell it and pick up a 8320 and clock it up to around 4.5 it starts to overtake the stock speed 2500k at that speed. OP what's your gpu usage when you have slowdowns? The 6950 is a proper slug but it shouldn't be that bad.

#4635918

Madcal

2013-08-12 18:33

I only have fraps running currently so i cant tell you the specific details. but with everything on low setting i get about 30-20 frames, and when the action picks up its lagging bad, 10-8 frames. Im blaming the gpu because its the only carry over from my previous rig. Should i be looking elsewhere for the problem Loophole?

#4635919

yasamoka

2013-08-12 18:35

MSI Afterburner, HWInfo64, setup CPU usage monitoring.

#4635923

Madcal

2013-08-12 18:39

Im downloading afterburner now. Should i run a stress test? I haven't ran one before. Whats a good program?

#4635924

Darkest

2013-08-12 18:41

I only have fraps running currently so i cant tell you the specific details. but with everything on low setting i get about 30-20 frames, and when the action picks up its lagging bad, 10-8 frames. Im blaming the gpu because its the only carry over from my previous rig. Should i be looking elsewhere for the problem Loophole?

As I mentioned earlier, most MMO's are CPU intensive. It could very well be that your CPU is holding you back rather than the GPU. I highly recommend you hold off on purchasing anything and take yasamoka's advice regarding monitoring CPU usage.

#4635929

Madcal

2013-08-12 18:48

Ok, thanks darkest. Didnt think it could be the cpu. I mean i thought it was a pretty mean chip when i bought it

#4635971

Madcal

2013-08-12 19:47

Starting to look like bad ram. I ran prime 95 for 10 mins and everything looked ok. But as soon as i ran OCCT, it crashed

#4635982

yasamoka

2013-08-12 20:23

OCCT GPU test or CPU test? I don't recommend stress-testing your GPU with MSI Kombuster, OCCT GPU, Furmark, or equivalent anymore. Those have the potential to kill your graphics card (and I suspect a previous incident I had with a failed / blown VRM might have been related to excessive stress testing). If you had a crash after a few seconds or minutes with CPU test, then it can be your CPU, your RAM, your memory controller. Since Prime95 seems to have run fine (10 minutes is not totally conclusive though), then it might be RAM (had that issue with a friend's build, turned out to be a bad RAM stick), as the OCCT CPU test (LinX I'm guessing?) does stress RAM.

#4636021

Madcal

2013-08-12 21:29

Well im back and very confused. I ran OCCT on a different ram sticks and different ram locations. All the test ran longer than with both 4g stick in dual channel but all failed at some point. I ran a program i found called heavy load but all test past.

#4636026

Madcal

2013-08-12 21:35

I know you would normaly run a test for an hour or more, but i cant get past a minute with out a failure

#4636064

Madcal

2013-08-12 22:31

Well, im stumped. I checked everything. My board bios shows all my hardware is present and working at stock settings. I cant get my ram to run a 1600, but thats not a big deal right now. The only thing thats jumping out at me is that my psu fan is not spinning but i have read it wont unless using over 200w Im a causal builder and never ran into this kind of problem before. Good thing i checked here before i bought a new video card. Looks like thats the least of my problems. And the real problem is deeper than i thought. Thanks for all your help guys. You saved me 250$

#4636071

yasamoka

2013-08-12 22:55

Try memtest86+. Boot it from a USB flash drive.

#4636073

---TK---

2013-08-12 23:02

you really need to oc that bd cpu playing cpu intensive games or sell it and get an 8320 with an aftermarket cooler. I remember the 8150 needing 4.5ghz to match a 6 core thuban at 4ghz

#4638992

elite69

2013-08-18 00:25

single gpu for now if i were you

#4639000

sykozis

2013-08-18 00:35

Try memtest86+. Boot it from a USB flash drive.

^ that's the next logical step before replacing anything. Stress tests are a great way to damage components....and randomly replacing parts gets expensive....

#4639008

yasamoka

2013-08-18 00:55

^ that's the next logical step before replacing anything. Stress tests are a great way to damage components....and randomly replacing parts gets expensive....

Well, it depends. If you keep stress-testing something that is showing there's something wrong then yes. Graphics cards can also be taken out with a few day's worth of stress testing or even shorter. As long as the logic components (CPU, GPU, etc...) heat is taken care of, I'd worry about the power delivery components like the VRMs on both the motherboard and the graphics cards.