Updated: AMD Ryzen 7000X3D launches February 14th 2023

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Undying

2023-01-11 15:22

Horus-Anhur:

Breaking up with the GF to buy a 7800X3D 😱

If its fast as we think it will be its worth it. 😀

#6092500

pegasus1

2023-01-11 17:25

deusex:

Im ready. I have all the componets, just need the CPU and the new build will be glorious.

That will seem like the longest wait in history. https://i0.wp.com/www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/f44a1f8643196544cd31ab9501e3e62f.jpg

#6092512

tunejunky

2023-01-11 17:47

haste:

I'm extremely skeptical about this hybrid design. These dual CCD CPUs have one problem already, which is increased inter-chip latency between different CCDs and scheduler has to take this into account. And now we are adding another level of decisions on top of that, depending on some arbitrary cache vs frequency decisions, which imho will never work 100%. Scheduler will never be able to predict whether some process will benefit from more cache at some point. Even like 1kb executable can benefit from 50MBs of cache and vice versa. It's similar to Intel's e-cores. There will always be situations, where the system will run suboptimal.

this is not a hybrid design it's nothing like Intel's E-cores and inter-CCD latency hasn't been an issue as the 5800X3D is still the gaming champion and this is a full gen later. the E-core cpu is the cpu with scheduler issues, not a ryzen cpu and this is borne out in the real world. do a google search for scheduler issues and it's almost all Intel.

#6092519

tunejunky

2023-01-11 17:56

i am buying the 7900X3D the day it's released. i've been picking up bits and pieces for a system over the last two months and the only things waiting at this point are the 7900X3D and a new GPU, most likely the RX7900XT (non-x). whatever anybody says about the 7900XT, the facts bear out a few things - 1) it's the best GPU on the market under $1k, and 2) it still beats out a 3090ti. because of the stellar performance of the XTX the XT is less loved but is far more widely available and you can get AIB models with different coolers @ MSRP (at least w/ powercolor) so no vapor chamber issues.

#6092523

tunejunky

2023-01-11 18:01

fantaskarsef:

Right now, as it is, for me personally, the only AMD CPUs I'd buy are either the 7800X3D, or the 5800X3D. Singe CCD, for gaming use only, no BIOS issues, no cross cash latency issues as far as I've understood, no Windows schedular sorcery needed to run.

i've never had a problem in gaming with 2nd or 3rd gen ryzen. i did with 1st gen but i expected that. i have three systems running ryzen 3 with top flight gpus and i only started running 4k last summer (everything else is 1440p) and i've had no issues @ 4k is this related to the games being played? or is this just a statistical anomaly that is being misunderstood and misused?

#6092527

fantaskarsef

2023-01-11 18:08

tunejunky:

i've never had a problem in gaming with 2nd or 3rd gen ryzen. i did with 1st gen but i expected that. i have three systems running ryzen 3 with top flight gpus and i only started running 4k last summer (everything else is 1440p) and i've had no issues @ 4k is this related to the games being played? or is this just a statistical anomaly that is being misunderstood and misused?

hehe I can't tell because I don't have the full stats either 🙂 It's just, I don't see the massive appeal in the other CPUs. But that's just my opinion, I have no claim in being right for everybody, every situation, every use case, nor am I beyond being taught better 🙂

#6092528

sykozis

2023-01-11 18:09

kakiharaFRS:

- I repeat this often I don't know what this TDP is supposed to be but it's nothing real

You repeat it often because you don't understand what TDP is..... TDP stands for "Thermal Design Power"..... For the average consumer, it's utterly useless information. It's used for designing thermal solutions and has no direct relation to power draw.

#6092574

Venix

2023-01-11 19:43

fantaskarsef:

hehe I can't tell because I don't have the full stats either 🙂 It's just, I don't see the massive appeal in the other CPUs. But that's just my opinion, I have no claim in being right for everybody, every situation, every use case, nor am I beyond being taught better 🙂

A lot of people act like only the top gaming CPU is relevant, even if we assume PCs where pure gaming machines . But as far you do not aim for over 144hz especially on 1440p and over and your card is around 3080 class and lower any 9xxx 6 core and higher Intel CPU and and 3xxx will give you very similar performance and most likely the GPU will be the be the first one to need a replacement .

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fantaskarsef

2023-01-11 20:28

Venix:

A lot of people act like only the top gaming CPU is relevant, even if we assume PCs where pure gaming machines . But as far you do not aim for over 144hz especially on 1440p and over and your card is around 3080 class and lower any 9xxx 6 core and higher Intel CPU and and 3xxx will give you very similar performance and most likely the GPU will be the be the first one to need a replacement .

Minimum details is enough for 144Hz 1440p, when it comes to competitive games 😀 But it's quite easy: check CPU benchmarks, then GPU benchmarks, compare your desired setup performance to what the top dogs of both CPU and GPU would give you (what they're usually tested with, vice versa, anyway), and apply factors in relation to them. Nerd basic maths.

#6092593

pegasus1

2023-01-11 20:35

fantaskarsef:

Minimum details is enough for 144Hz 1440p, when it comes to competitive games 😀 But it's quite easy: check CPU benchmarks, then GPU benchmarks, compare your desired setup performance to what the top dogs of both CPU and GPU would give you (what they're usually tested with, vice versa, anyway), and apply factors in relation to them. Nerd basic maths.

No, just buy the products that have the most X's in the name but to eliminate any bottlenecking make sure you have equal X's for both the GPU and CPU

#6092615

H83

2023-01-11 22:27

Horus-Anhur:

Breaking up with the GF to buy a 7800X3D 😱

I can already imagine the conversation: Man - "Honey, i`m sorry but i have to break up our relation" GF - surprised "But why, what happened? Don`t tell me ahve you another woman!" Man - "No, i`ve just bought a super CPU for gaming, so i won`t have time or money to be with you for the foreseeable future, so good luck and all that" Later on, when powering his Ryzen 7800X3D for the first time: "Now, i can dedicate myself to you, my precious!...":D More seriously, they could have said the price of the CPUs, to see if the premium is worth it.

#6092717

pegasus1

2023-01-12 08:00

H83:

More seriously, they could have said the price of the CPUs, to see if the premium is worth it.

Cmon bud, you know thats not the AMD way of doing things lately, they just dangle some selected 'facts' and leave us ti fill in the blanks. Im standing by to be underwhelmed again ha ha

#6092727

mentor07825

2023-01-12 09:14

Date for the processors was taken down. From another source it looks like it was posted by mistake and we should standby for the correct official release date:

Update (10:32 PM EST): AMD has clarified that the launch date reported on its product webpage is incorrect and that they will provide an update on the availability in the future. Following is AMD's official statement provided to us:

Source

#6092822

Venix

2023-01-12 13:47

fantaskarsef:

Minimum details is enough for 144Hz 1440p, when it comes to competitive games 😀 But it's quite easy: check CPU benchmarks, then GPU benchmarks, compare your desired setup performance to what the top dogs of both CPU and GPU would give you (what they're usually tested with, vice versa, anyway), and apply factors in relation to them. Nerd basic maths.

Competitive games already sport several hundred fps with all those CPUs I am not sure how much they will benefit anyone running dota league of legends rainbow six or Cs on 500 fps instead of 300 maybe if you are an mlg level player I guess.

#6092825

fantaskarsef

2023-01-12 13:57

Venix:

Competitive games already sport several hundred fps with all those CPUs I am not sure how much they will benefit anyone running dota league of legends rainbow six or Cs on 500 fps instead of 300 maybe if you are an mlg level player I guess.

You probably are right. Somebody needs to drive those 500Hz but crap resolution screens anyway.

#6092827

Undying

2023-01-12 13:59

fantaskarsef:

You probably are right. Somebody needs to drive those 500Hz but crap resolution screens anyway.

It can have 1000hz when picture quality is crap.

#6092830

fantaskarsef

2023-01-12 14:06

Undying:

It can have 1000hz when picture quality is crap.

Somebody at Asus probably just had a shiver running down his spine, feeling that there is a market for a 1000Hz 720p screen.

#6092848

H83

2023-01-12 14:53

fantaskarsef:

Somebody at Asus probably just had a shiver running down his spine, feeling that there is a market for a 1000Hz 720p screen.

That same somebody thinking about it "if the screen runs at 1000Hz then i can easily ask 1.000€ for it! F***, i`m so amazing!"

#6092851

fantaskarsef

2023-01-12 15:00

H83:

That same somebody thinking about it "if the screen runs at 1000Hz then i can easily ask 1.000€ for it! F***, i`m so amazing!"

Just wait, he'll be upper management in 6 months. If not, he just switches to Razer and makes it happen!

#6098810

mdk77777

2023-02-01 16:06

pegasus1:

That will seem like the longest wait in history.

Hey my 5800x upgrade is running prefect NOW. Why you ask? Because after a FULL YEAR the MB finally issued a final stable BIOS. B550 AORUS PRO AC (rev. 1.x) I kid you not. So, even if I have a AM5 rig.....I would be waiting a few months to see how this goes. It is insane how long optimizations on new hardware take. Hopefully drivers will continue to mature for the 7900XT .....and not take more than a year to realize some of the potential of the hardware.