AMD Ryzen 3000: Globalfoundries expects 5.0 GHz for the 7nm process
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Jagman
I maybe wrong, but I think Raven Ridge is Summit Ridge based (i.e. original Zen)
Pinscher
That was my understanding too.
Fox2232
Zen+ is Zen 1 with fixed biggest pain points and minor tweaking. But in case Raven Ridge is some kind of Zen between "1" and "+"... it would make Zen+ quite better than Zen 1 as can be seen on Raven Ridge's changes.
(I do not think I can be so positive, and there is very small amount of time between both releases... On other hand, tuning manufacturing process for APU is harder than for CPU.)
Pinscher
I think you're missed informed about RavenRidge as it is based on Zen. I'm really not trying to be trolling here, but 1.5% + 5.7% != 16%.
My b350 board was running 2933MHz out of box and up to 3466 after patching...
Zen latency really only posed a problem for performance when threads are designed to be sort lived or jumped around from core to core. It didn't seem to be much effort for a Oxide Games to Ryzen optimize.
Well all the tech sites say Raven Ridge is Zen, not Zen+...Since Raven Ridge is built on the same 14nm process as Zen, because it's Zen.
The point of Zen+ is to build Zen on a platform that wasn't Mhz constrained, and also throw in some fixes. It's basically the "desktop" version of Zen VS the mobile version, which we are using as a desktop processor.
nevcairiel
You can't really get both for free. More clocks require more power, and more cores require more power as well. So its usually "pick one", or "pick a bit of both", but not both to the extreme.
Its not like its not possible, but probably not in the power envelope of a Ryzen/Core i7 CPU.
We already today have Intel i9 10/12-cores that can run OC 4.3-4.5GHz on AIO cooling, get that a comfortable 5GHz, and thats already decent - although merely 10-15% increase at that point.
sverek
Welcoming Zen2 to upgrade from Sandy. Finally a justified upgrade for me.
Dozet3
After they work on it for 8 generations we will see
Fox2232
@Pinscher : I think you are not trolling. I am sure, you are doing same thing since you joined. I wonder when you change, and if you quote your 0.5% IPC improvement from Zen to Zen+ once HH gets to test Clock 2 Clock.
nizzen
Someone expected 1080ti (+) performance for Vega64 too LOL
cryohellinc
2019 it is then. Until then, my 4770k @4.4 should be sufficient.
RooiKreef
Not impossible at all if you think abput it.... Intel is already sitting at 5Ghz technically on the K series with a OC. So AMD will have to push that 5Ghz, as I personally think the only reason why Intel is a bit faster than AMD at this point is because of the lower clocks compared to Intel. Close that gap and they will be on pare. I hope they succeed though!
jortego128
AdoredTV are wrong. GloFo will be doing 7nm Zen 2 EPYC AND 7nm Vega Pro later this year. Not sure if and how TSMC will be used....
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Venix
i do not get why some people are getting excited when say amd fails to deliver good products ...or amd or nvidia ... i wish all the companies including via ! had highly competitive products going neck to neck so they can rip each other throat out and have a price war ... healthy competition is beneficial to everyone that includes people that are loyal to one corporation no matter what
JamesSneed
Sure it will. When IBM started developing the 7nm node they actually had far more complex chips in mind and were shooting for 5Ghz +. This 7nm node from IBM that Glofo got when they bought out IBM's division should be pretty awesome. I will go on a limb and say this will be by far the most success node Glofo has ever had.
JamesSneed
There are a lot of people whose image or self worth is tied to physical products likes houses, cars and in this case CPU and GPU's. I'm not sure why it happens but its pretty common.
D3M1G0D
As an AMD investor, I've learned to temper my expectations 😉. We shouldn't expect too much from Zen+, perhaps some marginal improvements, but nothing groundbreaking. Zen 2, and 7 nm, should bring more significant changes.
Many people have their identities intertwined with certain companies. This isn't unbreakable (I used to be an Intel loyalist until last year), but it's the same with many other things that we own/do. Our jobs, property and activities largely define us, for better or for worse. "My neighbor John is an engineer, drives a SUV, and plays badminton".
Venix
D3m1god & james i understand what you are saying still puzzles me though why people get happy when they do not deliver! What is the train of thought? Yes X companiy product is a flook now Y company will bend me over for a good product ! ....or something like that? 😛
Koniakki
So many exciting AMD news lately! We are getting spoiled! 😛
Also we can't thank AMD enough times for finally putting an end to the "Sandy Bridge effect"! 😀
D3M1G0D
People rarely think about it that way. They just think the failure of a competing company will mean their favorite company is unthreatened. I agree that it's a short-sighted and narrow view of things, as it just means higher prices from said favorite company (it's why Intel was able to charge $1700 for a 10-core, and why Nvidia currently sells their high-end gaming GPU for $1200 - they call it a Titan so people think it's a different product).
