AMD Radeon R300 Grenada is 380X, Fiji is 390X and Bermuda is 395x2

-Tj-

2015-02-09 15:33

^ Idk I played Ryse Son of Rome above 60fps on mine, but yeah it was Oc'ed to 1100mhz.. Anyway not really relevant, I think 390X will be the bomb, much much bigger bomb then GK110 or 290x was, just like Geforce GM200.

Those are old. Right this moment 780ti is so crippled that cant even beat 970. You can thank nvidia for that...

There are few exception benchmarks, like always, but overall its still the same. Stock 780Ti, slight OC from stock 928mhz boost to ~ 1100mhz makes a big difference. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/68234-asus-gtx-980-matrix-platinum-review-7.html

#5010569

GhostXL

2015-02-09 15:37

What about the 390, 390x and 395x2? You focus on 380 and 380x which will be made to fight 970 and 980 respectively. I bet it will be a -15% difference or so on price. nV will answer with their 980ti or titan2 and then amd, half a year later, with 390x and then 395x2... This will never end lol 🤓

So it's okay for you to make an excuse for AMD to rebrand 290 and 290x, but it's okay to bash Nvidia for 500mb of slower Vram that instead acts like a buffer. Yeah okay. :stewpid: That is why these comments are invalid. They don't make any sense.

#5010570

GeniusPr0

2015-02-09 15:39

So it's okay for you to make an excuse for AMD to rebrand 290 and 290x, but it's okay to bash Nvidia for 500mb of slower Vram that instead acts like a buffer. Yeah okay. :stewpid: That is why these comments are invalid. They don't make any sense.

AMD's excuse would be no 20nm tech. nVIDIA's is communication error. Nice comparison.

#5010573

typeAlpha

2015-02-09 15:44

Looks like the FijiXT will be a card that is finally worth upgrading to, I just hope it's not too expensive. Was considering going for nvidia this time round but their complete and utter lack of OpenCL support is a deal breaker for me.

#5010578

CPC_RedDawn

2015-02-09 15:50

Looks like the FijiXT will be a card that is finally worth upgrading to, I just hope it's not too expensive. Was considering going for nvidia this time round but their complete and utter lack of OpenCL support is a deal breaker for me.

They dont lack OpenCL support at all. Their cards just are not as fast as AMD's card when it comes down to OpenCL. Mainly due to not as many compute units.

#5010579

Veteran

2015-02-09 15:51

They need to hurry up and release these cards. The sooner the better.

#5010584

HunnoPT

2015-02-09 15:57

Damn, I'm disappointed. Last year I was looking at 970 to finally replace my current, ancient video card, but a friend told me it might be worth it to wait for the AMD 300 generation with the all new technology. So, I've been waiting only to learn now that the 380(x) model, which is the highest I could afford as I'd assume 390(x) is going to cost an arm and a leg being the flagship model, will be in fact dusty old technology with absolutely nothing new. Unless I'll get 380(x) for 300 euros or less (which is impossible, I reckon), then I'm forced to continue with Nvidia. Fortunately it's all the same for me if it's Nvidia or AMD. Rather than never having had problems with either, I've had problems with both equally, har har.

...AMDs upcoming Radeon 300 series have surfaced on the web... ...Very little is know TBH. The latest gossip points towards... You are disappointing with gossips and assumptions? The cards are not even finished yet , hold your horses and wait tll they came, then decide what to do.. Only stupid nerd fanboys will trash in this thread ,its war made post .. Anyway like Fox said, this is like 5th rumor thread..

#5010587

typeAlpha

2015-02-09 15:59

They dont lack OpenCL support at all. Their cards just are not as fast as AMD's card when it comes down to OpenCL. Mainly due to not as many compute units.

Sorry, I was referring specifically to OpenCL 2.0. If nvidia support 2.0 I wasn't aware and apologise!

#5010605

marcoloves360

2015-02-09 16:21

how much do you guys think how much it will cost the r9 390? i hope £300 i really want one 🙂

#5010609

Solfaur

2015-02-09 16:25

I'm not surprised about the rebranding, they did the exact same thing with the last generation. I only care about the 390X anyway, can't wait to see if it's as good as the rumors makes it out to be.

#5010611

Undying

2015-02-09 16:26

Hype is real. That 390X specs are godlike. Cant wait to get my hands on one of those. 😀

#5010620

Humanoid_1

2015-02-09 16:41

one other thought on these cards... Though the 390X is meant to draw about 300w under load like the 290X... it of course is producing about 50% more performance for the same power consumption. Once you fps limit to 60fps, it will be like a walk in the park for this card in Many games I play which in turn = a Large drop in power consumption. It should be a Very Efficient card power wise for all but the most intensive games. ...But ofc I will be pairing this with a Freesync 4k (144Hz when they finally arrive) screen though which kinda blows most of that out the window xD

#5010621

sykozis

2015-02-09 16:42

Hype is real. That 390X specs are godlike. Cant wait to get my hands on one of those. 😀

Yes. They'll finally bring world peace and end hunger! On a serious note. The specs really don't mean much until we see performance reviews.

#5010631

GhostXL

2015-02-09 16:57

AMD's excuse would be no 20nm tech. nVIDIA's is communication error. Nice comparison.

Comparison? Who is comparing? I'm correcting. You are wrong if you think it's okay to bash one company for a legitimate design, and then not bash another for rebranding and not saying so. So either way you look at it, both companies did something they didn't say they did on their advertising of the product. I don't see anywhere on AMD's website or box art for the card that says. WARNING: THIS IS A REBRANDED PRODUCT WITH SLIGHTLY FASTER CLOCK SPEEDS. or.... WARNING: THIS CARD HAS A 500MB VRAM BUFFER.

#5010638

schmidtbag

2015-02-09 17:04

In some ways I'm glad the 290/290X has been rebranded - it means driver support will last much longer. Anybody think its possible to crossfire a 290 with a 380/380X? Or any benefits of reflashing a 290/290X to a 390/390X? I suspect the 390/390X will still be very power-hungry, but I think AMD has learned their lesson that they lost potential customers due to the power draw. I will be surprised if their reference cooler is a piece of crap like last gen's. Also I'm confused - if the 370 is Tonga, how is it GCN 1.3? IIRC, the 285 was GCN 1.2.

#5010643

Loophole35

2015-02-09 17:09

In some ways I'm glad the 290/290X has been rebranded - it means driver support will last much longer. Anybody think its possible to crossfire a 290 with a 380/380X? Or any benefits of reflashing a 290/290X to a 390/390X? I suspect the 390/390X will still be very power-hungry, but I think AMD has learned their lesson that they lost potential customers due to the power draw. I will be surprised if their reference cooler is a piece of crap like last gen's. Also I'm confused - if the 370 is Tonga, how is it GCN 1.3? IIRC, the 285 was GCN 1.2.

According to this chart it's GCN1.2. https://i.imgur.com/tnLciO6.jpg

#5010648

Turanis

2015-02-09 17:12

Only Speculations. Who knows if 380X will have HBM,who knows if all 3xx are rebranded old products. We sit and wait. 😀

#5010649

GeniusPr0

2015-02-09 17:12

Comparison? Who is comparing? I'm correcting. You are wrong if you think it's okay to bash one company for a legitimate design, and then not bash another for rebranding and not saying so.

But what does it matter if the 290X is completely rebranded? "People buy based on performance shown in reviews!" /every argument by 970 owners 🙄 Although I agree with you that rebranding and not saying so is quite dishonest, and a bit manipulative. It's not like the price isn't dropping and since the card isn't out, I don't know if anything extra is being added, this argument is altogether meaningless. Time will tell.

So either way you look at it, both companies did something they didn't say they did on their advertising of the product.

Yes, but nVIDIA falsely advertised. AMD would be misleading. There is still a difference. Did you know it's actually legal to put a label of "New" on a store product, and change absolutely nothing about its content?

I don't see anywhere on AMD's website or box art for the card that says. WARNING: THIS IS A REBRANDED PRODUCT WITH SLIGHTLY FASTER CLOCK SPEEDS. or.... WARNING: THIS CARD HAS A 500MB VRAM BUFFER.

You forgot: "We no longer optimize for GK110 or any Kepler, but buy this GPU anyway!!!" And don't forget, it was out of AMD's hands. TMSC kind of screwed them and nVIDIA.

#5010656

blkspade

2015-02-09 17:18

Comparison? Who is comparing? I'm correcting. You are wrong if you think it's okay to bash one company for a legitimate design, and then not bash another for rebranding and not saying so. So either way you look at it, both companies did something they didn't say they did on their advertising of the product. I don't see anywhere on AMD's website or box art for the card that says. WARNING: THIS IS A REBRANDED PRODUCT WITH SLIGHTLY FASTER CLOCK SPEEDS. or.... WARNING: THIS CARD HAS A 500MB VRAM BUFFER.

You are still ultimately comparing 2 entirely different things. The first being everything on AMD's side is still just speculation on an unreleased product. That no one has spent money on yet. Also buffed rebrands in the mid-range have been par for the course from both sides, for a while now. That's vastly different then selling something with unclear spec's, that doesn't become apparent until after people have begun purchasing said product. Also a buffer generally helps with speed/efficiency, and is generally faster than the source feeding it.

#5010658

schmidtbag

2015-02-09 17:20

For any nvidia fans out there whining about rebrands - nvidia has been doing the same thing almost every year for about 8 years now, though, usually they only do it on low-end GPUs. I don't really understand why AMD would rebrand the 290(X) but since AMD is so slow to perfect drivers, I personally don't mind. Look at the performance of a 290(X) today vs when it was first released and I'm sure you'd see a pretty significant performance difference.