AMD Might Release and Add Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 9 5900X3D (X3D) procs
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Silva
If they do come out, quantities will be small and just a filler until Ryzen 7000 comes.
GamerNerves
If they will release these products they need to be released some time ahead the launch of Zen 4, because they are not going to be very cost effective for AMD. When they would eventually coexist with the Zen 4 family, they would need to sell them for a low price if Zen 4 is not going to be ludicrously expensive. Though, if still there are many people on Zen 1 or 2, I guess slotting one of these into existing AM4 board is a somewhat appealing option even if Zen 4 would already be out, but that depends on nextgen motherboard and DDR5 pricing.
I guess for the six core part there is more room in the market, because if you only game you don't want to waste money on worthless extra cores. If the design of these 3D V-cache processors makes the cache part so hot that they don't allow overclocking on them, I don't think the six core part will clock any higher than the current 5800X3D, as someone wished in the comments. AMD has offered higher clocks on the best possible silicons anyway, which practically always end up in the best models with many cores.
Aura89
CPC_RedDawn
This could be a nice send off for AM4.
However, it could also be for AMD to price hike Zen4 at higher prices...... :/
FookDat
Looking for a reason to upgrade my 3950x on my MSI X570s ek carbon so 5950x3d would be greatly appreciated. Just DO NOT make it ridiculously priced. Hoping AM5 will alleviate the demand of the AM4 products that get released and spread out the availability of devices.
Stormyandcold
I'm mega curious about how cache scales. How fast could a cpu with 512mb be? 1GB?:p
Undying
kakiharaFRS
seeing my atrocious z690 12900k ddr5 pcie5 experience where every day I want to switch back to my 5950x X570 which had working 4 memory slots, more rear usbs and useable pcie slots ><
I'm hoping for too much but a 5950x3d non OC would be great for me
so now I'm at either AMD fixes the DDR5 is unstable incompatible trash problem, fixes the pcie/chipset "lost in the void" bandwith problem of 5.0 (might be why they went dual chipset) or I'm definitely going back to 5950x X570 had 29'000 cineR23 at 72°C and now that I had to multi thread render lots of videos at the same time with the Intel those e-cores are just useless for a desktop computer
so to be clear DDR5 and PCIE5 are two of the main reasons I hate Z690, if AMD couldn't fix those I absolutely believe they are working on re-releases of ryzen 5000 maybe this time that scandal will be properly covered unlike currently where influencers say "I decided to stay with amd for reasons" rather than "omg it's crap don't buy"
Catspaw
I currently have a 5900X which I bought after the support for Ryzen 5000 came to X370.
Now we have 5800X3D as an "upgrade" and we might get something else, but... most enthusiasts probably are fine with their CPUs now and are waiting for the next 50/80% increase in performance (over more than one generation that is).
We will see.
tunejunky
H83
pirlampas
5600X3D is the most probable of the bunch, it's just a single CCD like the 5800X3D but they don't need to have 8 good cores.
Seeing how hot the 5800X3D gets already I don't know if having two CCD under the cache blanket is going to be adequate for a lot of cooling solutions.
JamesSneed
tunejunky
it's almost a guarantee that there's going to be a TR3D as it's almost the same as Milan-X.
there's a high likelihood of a 7900x3D, but i doubt there's going to be a 7950x3D - hope i'm wrong 'cuz that's my preference - simply because of heat management issues. both the 7900x and 7800x are very suitable as there are empty ccds and that equals less heat. but this is gen 2 and they may have something up their sleeve (possible lower clocks that are still faster than 5950x)
schmidtbag
blkspade
AMD has been planning to implement 3D vCache since Zen 2, which is where they started building the Through Silicon Vias in the chiplets. That basically allows them to implement it in any spare chiplets. The tech was first and foremost designed for the server space, so it's unlikely the TSV are implemented at all in the APU dies as those are just repurposed monolithic mobile dies. 5600X3Ds make sense in that any spare would be 5600s can be packaged at any time as X3D. Looking at the limitations, I wasn't surprised they didn't do the 5950X3D. The target demographic for the 16 core is productivity. Asking $800 for it to be slower at what its really meant for is a bit ridiculous. The 1.35v vcore limit would hit harder on the 5950X. Single thread boost clocks are lower because of that, not heat.
user1
I could see it if there are rejects that failed to bond the cache properly, if they can disable the defective part of the cache, like say providing a l3 32+32mb cache instead of the usual 32+64mb.
JamesSneed
blkspade
Stormyandcold
Forza Horizon 5 1200P high setting on 6800U GPD WIN MAX 2 - YouTube
I'm seeing APU's that are competent at gaming right now tbh.