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#5414702
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AMD has plenty to bring to the line on the high end. Those "reviewers" just dont want you to see how good it is. This is the power of the Fury + Ryzen 1700 youtube.com/watch?v=994SEygRnkY
#5414707
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I agree but wrong
Exactly, i'm on quad channel 2400Mhz, toggled xmp profile on and never came back to it.
I agree with you but we are missing the point here. RYZEN with proper RAM OC has enough performance or even greater gaming performance than a 7700k 5GHZ when RYZEN RAM is above 3400 MHZ. All those reviewers posting chars of RYZEN below 3200 MHZ on RAM will never show you what the CPU is capable of, I'm glad Gilbert is already working on this article as RAM OC becomes easier.
#5414724
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I am currently working on an article with showing the benefits of memory timings, tweaking and overclocking. To show you how to get the best perf and experience on a Ryzen platform. I already started, but would really like to wait on the micro-code firmware update.
Awesome Boss :thumbup: , looking forward to this article as it will help many users truly understand how they can squeezed more performance out of their Ryzen set ups. There is a lot of untapped performance to be had on Ryzen CPUs for gaming and it will get much better.
#5414745
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About to build a Ryzen rig to replace a Core 2 Duo at my mom's. Already got all the parts picked out...just waiting for stock. There's bios updates almost weekly for the board I'm looking at.
From Core 2 Duo? I don't think you'll see much difference, to be honest. It's going to be like a sidegrade.
#5414750
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I am currently working on an article with showing the benefits of memory timings, tweaking and overclocking. To show you how to get the best perf and experience on a Ryzen platform. I already started, but would really like to wait on the micro-code firmware update. BTW if you guys value adore tv, then really you should not even be visiting Guru3D.com.
He got a point though Hilbert I mean, look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBf2lvfKkxA I can't say the numbers are or not real but wtf: not a single professional reviewer actually used an AMD GPU for testing the Ryzen platform. Wasn't Nvidia notorious for being bad with DX12 and AMD bad with DX11? Wasn't DX12 and Vulcan supposed to help improve the red team results? What the heck: throw crossfire RX480s if you are worried with GPU bottlenecks but do test the red team!
From Core 2 Duo? I don't think you'll see much difference, to be honest. It's going to be like a sidegrade.
:3eyes:
#5414760
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I can't say the numbers are or not real but wtf: not a single professional reviewer actually used an AMD GPU for testing the Ryzen platform. Wasn't Nvidia notorious for being bad with DX12 and AMD bad with DX11? Wasn't DX12 and Vulcan supposed to help improve the red team results? What the heck: throw crossfire RX480s if you are worried with GPU bottlenecks but do test the red team! :3eyes:
Why bother, use one RX480 and just lower resolution to 720p to see if it changes anything. It is better to test CPU without encountering GPU bottleneck.
#5414786
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I have no idea about Tech Epiphany, but if that video of theirs posted here has any merit, then WTF.
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now you can use 3800mhz ram on this board= ryzen itself alon can support 6000mhz ram(50ftl graphic=4*1080) !!!!but for hard latency and high price ram above 3000mhz amd ask board creators to be under 3000 mhz
What a load of crap. Unless you have proof ...
#5414799
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PrMinisterGR are you from GREECE?
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Good news!
#5414810
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From Core 2 Duo? I don't think you'll see much difference, to be honest. It's going to be like a sidegrade.
He's obviously being sarcastic.
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From Core 2 Duo? I don't think you'll see much difference, to be honest. It's going to be like a sidegrade.
um. Wtf are you on about now? If that's not the biggest troll post in regards to ryzen, i don't know what is.
#5414873
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If that's not the biggest troll post in regards to ryzen, i don't know what is.
Alright. I'll stop cracking jokes here at Guru3D. It was not a troll post. How could it even be such a thing? It was a pure joke since the person was talking about such a major upgrade from an ancient CPU.
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now you can use 3800mhz ram on this board= ryzen itself alon can support 6000mhz ram(50ftl graphic=4*1080) !!!!but for hard latency and high price ram above 3000mhz amd ask board creators to be under 3000 mhz
Tech ready for DDR5.
#5414885
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I am currently working on an article with showing the benefits of memory timings, tweaking and overclocking. To show you how to get the best perf and experience on a Ryzen platform. I already started, but would really like to wait on the micro-code firmware update. BTW if you guys value adore tv, then really you should not even be visiting Guru3D.com.
Hahaha. Well said. Great to see AMD and RyZen are making great strides. Long may it continue. Now come on Vega.
#5414910
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I have no idea about Tech Epiphany, but if that video of theirs posted here has any merit, then WTF.
I know right? As a consumer and tech enthusiast, I just want the truth. Also, it gets on my nerves the tech reviewers using the same 3 GPUs most of us could never afford plus not benching with anything from AMD to compare. At 720p and low settings you can't possibly run into GPU bottleneck with a RX480 (or a Fury). I know what they'll say: "oh, but it's old tech bla bla bla". Ya, the reviews look very biased to me now.
#5414944
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I know right? As a consumer and tech enthusiast, I just want the truth. Also, it gets on my nerves the tech reviewers using the same 3 GPUs most of us could never afford plus not benching with anything from AMD to compare. At 720p and low settings you can't possibly run into GPU bottleneck with a RX480 (or a Fury). I know what they'll say: "oh, but it's old tech bla bla bla". Ya, the reviews look very biased to me now.
Reviewers will pick the faster/fastest single card GPU solution as they do not want the GPU to be a bottleneck and thus influence the results. I pick a GTX 1080 as it is more CPU bound in 1080p and more GPU bound in 1440p. Hence a good balance of the two.
#5414946
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Reviewers will pick the faster/fastest single card GPU solution as they do not want the GPU to be a bottleneck and thus influence the results. I pick a 1080 as it is CPU bound in 1080 and GPU bound in 1440p.
You have missed it yet, but AdoredTV (and now C't) has done some investigation and testing. Turns out that Ryzen delivers unbelievable performance with AMD cards and the bottleck we have been seeing with Nvidia cards (i.e 1080(Ti)) are not in fact a CPU bottleneck but one of Nvidia's DX12 driver implementation(s). :infinity: EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/OjSIcgM.jpg Effectively reducing the gap between Ryzen and other CPUs we've been seeing in reviews. Of course, Intel remains champ 😉 Creates some hype for Vega, if nothing else and highlighted that perhaps the fastest single GPU of both vendors should be tested.
#5414948
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Crossfire and Single card ain't comparing apples to apples. You add in scene one extra heavy thread for 2nd gpu, which only means 4C/8T will choke earlier compared to single card setup. On DX12 this extra thread is much lighter than it is under DX11. So it's not really fair comparision as it's own. Also we can actually expect nvidia and AMD to release ryzen specific driver updates aswell.
The point is that when testing the GTX 1070 + Ryzen in DX12, it simply looked like a CPU bottleneck for the Ryzen. But when testing RX 480 Crossfire + Ryzen, DX12 performance almost doubled compared to the GTX 1070. Had it been a simple CPU bottleneck, the performance for the RX 480 CF would have been similar to the GTX 1070's result. I think he should have tested at 720p to minimize the GPU bottleneck though, and with a single RX 480.

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