AMD based Xbox Series X could have 3584 shader processors

rm082e

2019-12-31 19:22

I am betting the Series X is the replacement for the Xbox One X, and we will see another model that's lower end - probably around 9.5 teraflops, like the existing PS5 dev kits. If that's the case, then it seems logical Sony would be working on a replacement for the Pro, which would be around the 12 teraflop mark just like the Series X. Assuming the above, it seems likely they would both launch their Basic and Premium models next holiday. $400 for the basic models, $700 for the Premiums.

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waltc3

2019-12-31 19:31

This is a rumor projecting out approximately 12 months--if true, and of course that's the key question, it could be a hint that ~5nm (or less?) is expected by then. It also could mean that since the xBox/PS GPUs are custom made for Microsoft and Sony, respectively, that the number of shaders here per compute core is drastically less than current 7nm retail GPUs. Should be fun to speculate.

#5746717

Ricepudding

2019-12-31 21:58

asturur:

Shocked and sad. I want to have the ps5 ( since i have the 4 ) but if is less powerfull of the xbox i won't buy it 😛 And i won't buy a XBOX because i'm like that. Seems weird that the difference is so big. Maybe xbox is coming with multiple version at launch?

From what i understand xbox might be coming out with two versions, one of the masses and one for the top end, assuming the masses one will be similar to PS5 performance if this is the case. Think i heard the xboxonex is still meant to be sold as the basic version?

#5746722

NCC1701D

2019-12-31 22:33

MS should just unlock the next Xbox with with a fully functional windows partition and an Xbox console partition. Add M&K support for the console games while they're at it. Can have that optimized console experience for the masses, and get some work done in the same box. I'd buy that. Never happen though.

#5746724

rl66

2019-12-31 22:36

wavetrex:

If this is true, it's for the first time ever that a console is on-par with high-end PCs in computing power. What a moment to be alive ! (and a gamer...)

It already happen 2 or 3 times... On other hand the XBox is still a PC on a tuned Windows...

#5746729

toyo

2019-12-31 22:48

I don't buy it, simply because of the price. 8/16 Ryzen Zen2 CPU, (estimation) 2080 Super levels of performance, GDDR6, NVMe SSD... ... all for 500-600$? Nah, sorry, this ain't it.

#5746736

vbetts

Moderator

2019-12-31 23:38

toyo:

I don't buy it, simply because of the price. 8/16 Ryzen Zen2 CPU, (estimation) 2080 Super levels of performance, GDDR6, NVMe SSD... ... all for 500-600$? Nah, sorry, this ain't it.

With them selling at a loss plus mass producing these parts so manufacturing costs won't be as bad as if they were just parts bought and put together, this won't be too bad for pricing. But also remember, that there is most likely a lower costing Series S or something coming as well to fill and price gap. Let's remember where Microsoft and Sony really makes their money though, subscriptions.

#5746760

H83

2020-01-01 01:05

Like others have said before, it seems to good to be true although MS needs something special to compete with Sony but then again, do console gamers care that much about graphics??? I think MS should concentrate more on having more and better exclusives than on having a better console.

#5746972

Loobyluggs

2020-01-01 21:16

H83:

Like others have said before, it seems to good to be true although MS needs something special to compete with Sony but then again, do console gamers care that much about graphics??? I think MS should concentrate more on having more and better exclusives than on having a better console.

Well, I think there is every chance they know the numbers this time. Some accountant whizz has crunched the numbers and saw that for MS to 'eat' the cost of producing an úber console, leaving no question about it's power versus all other consoles. Versus: The money that will be earnt from charging whatever they can get away with on their subscription model. Because: You can argue you have the best console... That's the balancing act they are faced with after totally losing this round.

#5746980

Bo Alenkaer

2020-01-01 22:16

Gues they have a working 60-64CU GPU after all. AMD might just have had to make a stock for consoles. Lets see if bring something for the PC at CES 🙂

#5747027

Kaarme

2020-01-02 08:05

Denial:

I mean its possible that this isn't the GPU inside the consoles.. Also I get that it's fun to rag on Jens but the guy does have a masters in electrical engineering, worked as a project director at LSI and a designer at AMD then went to start an extremely successful semiconductor company. So yeah, he probably knows a bit about technology.

He's 100% biased, though, because the new consoles aren't using anything from his extremely successful semiconductor company. You might even say 200% biased because a good portion of the people buying a new gaming console won't be interested in PC gaming at all, which means they are automatically removed from Nvidia's direct potential customer base. Of course they would still remain indirect customers because Nvidia sells a whole lot to data centers and such.

#5747039

Glottiz

2020-01-02 09:13

So many PC users in denial, XSX will be a beast. I'm actually optimistic about gaming future and can't wait to see what games will look like when development is no longer being slowed down by crappy Jaguar CPUs. I think next gen will be the best gen by far.

#5747522

Stormyandcold

2020-01-03 16:25

Glottiz:

So many PC users in denial, XSX will be a beast. I'm actually optimistic about gaming future and can't wait to see what games will look like when development is no longer being slowed down by crappy Jaguar CPUs. I think next gen will be the best gen by far.

It'll be more of the same imho due to the costs involved. Gameplay has barely improved or seen much innovation for quite a few years, just prettier graphics and sometimes improved physics, that's about it tbh. Not that i'm complaining.