AMD Announces RX 5000 Series Graphics processors at Computex - Demos RX 5700
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waltc3
I think for multi-gpu/X-fire it should be a nice little kick in the pants...;)
Kaarme
Yeah, actually Hilbert needs to use a new rig to test the upcoming NVMe drives using PCIe 4.0. So, no matter what, he will end up with a new rig in his hardware testing cave.
Ricardo
I guess this architecture is going inside the new consoles and doesn't have dedicated raytracing hardware? If so, that means those chips will be able to do decent raytracing even without specialized hardware, since PS5 has been announced to be capable of doing it.
If that's the case, then either nvidia will have serious edge on raytraced games, or their specialized chips will be overkill and not cost-efficient.
Next few years will be very interesting in the real time graphics field. 🙄
Astyanax
i can't wait to see the die mockup diagrams
maybe someone will send him a 3800x and motherboard to test soon so he can stop using that ancient 5960.
Evildead666
My guess is a custom chip, maybe with Gen1 raytracing support, and the next AMD GPUs next year might get Gen2 ?
Jayp
2080 Ti isn't saturating 16x PCIE 3.0 so really at this point PCIE 4.0 means nothing to gaming GPUs Navi doesn't need it but this is how new standards start in the market. Better to have it before you need it. Usually the PCIE standard stays way ahead of GPU requirements. Dual GPU is a case where 4.0 standard would help because of mainstream splitting of 16x into two 8x but that's wasteful territory currently. PCIE 4.0 probably has biggest news in SSDs. 4x PCIE 3.0 used on current M.2 NVMe drives is a limitation which tops out at 3.9 GB/s where as 4x PCIE 4.0 would be limited at 7.87 GB/s. Intel will definitely want to be on PCIE 4.0 by the time these new 5 GB/s drives become a common place. Of course there are still a ton of operations that happen well within of the spec of PCIE 3.0 4x and I am merely focusing on peak throughput.
Astyanax
it can and does, gaming isn't the only application these cards have to handle.
MonstroMart
Pretty much everyone seems to be saying this is a new architecture called RDNA specifically made with gaming in mind and that it wont be GCN (and it will coexist with GCN geared toward compute). I remember 2-3 weeks ago some guys here saying it would be 200% GCN for sure like it was impossible it was going to be a new architecture.
Astyanax
from all i can find RDNA is an evolution of GCN with a VLIW design that makes up the shortcomings of its previous incarnations.
we won't know more till the techsites get hardware briefs during the review phase.
chainy
Darn looks sweet, now the question remains will it have hdmi 2.1 ?;)
schmidtbag
Hmm.... I'm growing more hesitant about getting this. It's nice in a way that it's a new architecture but if it really is that different from GCN then I might want to wait for the next gen.
Maybe for this gen it won't matter much, but I'm sure after the next gen with all the necessary tweaks, PCIe 4.0 wll be a big deal for GPUs running with x8 lanes.
MonstroMart
I forgot the nvme drive when i wrote that though. It is sort of a big deal if you build a new system now. I mean if Zen 2 is on par with Intel why would you build a new computer without PCI-E 4 and the possibility to have a boot drive supporting it? Unless you're a fanboy it would not make any sense to build a new system without PCI-E 4 if the cpus are more or less equal.
dfsdfs1112
why no HDMI 2.1 ???
WHY
Kaleid
Agreed. But finally at least it is a new core, GCN has delivered rather well for very long but the efficiency has been lacking.
Astyanax
variable rate shading is a feature of the 2.6 driver model, all AMD has to do is expose feature support to directx and make their driver to the talking between api and hardware.
Rich_Guy
Driver code confirms AMD's Navi GPU series will be based on Graphics Core Next.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Driver-code-confirms-AMD-s-Navi-GPU-series-will-be-based-on-Graphics-Core-Next.419679.0.html
Astyanax
Except it isn't.
JamesSneed
Nvidia: Mild performance improvements, first generation RTX, high prices
AMD: MIld performance improvements and better efficiency
Personally will be waiting until the next generation of Nvidia or AMD. Nothing this generation is all that enticing to me playing at 2k.
Jayp
First off I was talking about gaming. Also, there are more powerful GPUs than the 2080 Ti for non-gaming workloads that are not limited by PCIe 3.0 with 16 lanes. Sure there could be edge cases. I will accept you providing me a good source showing real world cases where a GPU is limited by 16x PCIe 3.0.
Clouseau
Since they are revisiting the 5000 series of numbers again, are we also going to get a more modern bat mobile like shroud too?
