AMD aims for AM5 to have a similar lifespan to AM4 (5 years)
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cucaulay malkin
do you have to update every time ? no you don't.
their strategy is to get the consumer by offering good deals on cpus initially and then a long lasting platform,but the cost of cpu upgrade grows with every gen.you've seen what's happening with 5000. Intel sells 12400f at 180eur,while amd just don't have to drop the msrp for 5600x.They're getting absolutely ridiculous margins on producing and selling these.smart,really smart imo.
12th gen must have upset them though if they're considering support for r5000 on x370 though,something they've kep locked for more than a year.Better sell the cpu alone than nothing.
imo if you have good ddr4,just get a 12700f on b660.
the initial price for am5/ddr5 will be as horrendous as z690 w. ddr5 and no one should buy that except for people who buy 3090/6900s
JamesSneed
There is a near zero chance they screw this up based on Lisa Su's track record over the last 5 years.
mackintosh
It's only painful for actual enthusiast overclockers. The rest of us aren't that ambitious and settle for whatever we get stable, while the average user will just enable PBO and Auto-OC in Ryzen Master and will never bother looking at this or updating BIOS again.
Crazy Serb
I think key words in there are "similar strategy". AMD will offer longevity for marketing purposes, then they will try to cut of support for chipsets 3 years in...
BLEH!
Good for AMD being so forward thinking!
TheDeeGee
There is also no need to upgrade your CPU every year, modern CPUs will be fine for 6-8 years.
Krizby
Jup, I still have working PCs with 2500K, 3570K, 4790K, just give them SSD and they are still blazing fast.
My current 9900K probably last another 5 years easy, I just need to control my urges to build new PC 😛
JamesSneed
Honestly the above average user might not do a lot more these days. I couldn't beat PBO manually without power/heat going pretty high so went with it. Reduced some power limits because I wanted my PC to be near silent and did a little undervolt via the PBO curve. I get a little better than stock performance and its nice and cool.
5800X
PBO limits
125 PPT
83 TDC
124 EDC
Scaler - Auto
Thermal throttle limit - Auto
Curve - minus 25 on all cores
Boost clock override - +100Mhz
kapu
Means nothing.
4 bioses on b550 arous elite . No problem from start .
lots of of other mobos since 1998.
m4dn355
AM5 the one to rule them all. Cannot wait for the reviews spanning on 20+ pages.
MegaFalloutFan
It doesnt matter if they use the same socket, some people will have to upgrade the boards no matter what.
If AMD does what Intel did and new CPUs support DDR4, then they either have to support DDR4 for eternity, or for people that got DDR4 boards to buy new motherboard when they drop DDR4 support in 2023/24.
But AMD is not Intel, they too poor to support both DDR4 and DDR5, im 90% sure that ZEN4 will be DDR5 only
CPC_RedDawn
Hopefully Intel can follow suite.
This only benefits the consumer and it goes a long way into building company loyalty and trust.
user1
I don't think it has anything to do with being poor, seeing as even at amd's worse financial years, they supported ddr3 and ddr4 on their excavator apu silicon, It seems more like they will just keep am4 going for a little longer instead of releasing ddr4 am5 boards. Wouldn't be surprised if we see cutdown zen4/zen3+ chips on am4 as hand-me-downs, as we have seem before with the transition between fm2+ to am4, also of course historically the backwards compatible am2-am3+ era, This is possible for amd to do relatively cheaply due to the chiplet design. all you need to produce specifically for am4 is an io die.
HARDRESET
Sounds good to me, My X570 ASUS DARK HERO ,5950X is all I need for many years, hell even my 1080Ti is more than enough for me.
umeng2002
Intel was never about value. They offered scratch off codes to unlock processors. Let that sink in.
Mobo makers love Intel because they force people to buy new mobos every two years.
Astyanax
nobody wants to wait 5 years for pcie 6.
Commoner
The whole AM4 socket support period is a fiasco at best. As an AM4 motherboard owner (X370), i can inform anyone in AMD that my motherboard's socket isn't supported.
But they already know by denying Zen 3 support.
umeng2002
PCIe gen 4 is still overkill, never mind gen 5.
Ojref
To follow up with Commoner's post above, it seems like no one's remembering the X399 Threadripper switch-a-roonie. Now it appears TRX40 platform investors, such as myself (12 total stations) are about to get another shafting because it appears there will be no upgrade path. In reality, AMD has been about as bad, if not worse, than Intel in this regard.
nizzen
Looks like Intel users didn't need to upgrade every two years. Performance was good enough in gaming 😉 8700k with fast memory is still one of the best cpu's for gaming....
