Alder Lake-S sample has 5.3GHz boost clock scores 11300 points in Cinebench R20
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jura11
Not really depending which software or renderer you use, like V-RAY or Corona or Arnold and many others can be faster with CPUs and plus some features of these renderers are not available with GPU erx
Hope this helps
Thanks, Jura
JamesSneed
I personally hope this is true and Intel is very competitive. Will be good for pricing especially in 2022 when the shortage dies down. AMD's Zen4 is going to smoke whatever Intel does here so I'm not worried about that but I do want Intel competitive. Last thing we need is AMD becoming the new Intel. I want a tug of war so they both have to keep pushing hard to make the best products they can make not the 4-core Intel stagnation we had before.
TLD LARS
I dont expect much.
If they can beat a unlimited 10900k in multicore without going over the 125W TDP I will be impressed.
There is no chance this thing will beat a 5950x in cinebench or other high allcore long load, maybe a 5900x if they make the highest performance jump in the core series ever.
The 11900k and 10900k are mostly power or heat limited at full allcore, so if the small cores need to help doing work, something else needs to be throttled I think.
tunejunky
ahh the smell of vaporware in the morning...
these are all hype men trying to ramp up excitement for the already outdated Alder Lake.
add in the heat/power equation and ever-changing chipsets and it's just not worth it.
i passed on x399 (after always buying hedt from x79) for the same reasons.
i know AM5 will last more than one generation and i know Intel will have yet a couple more generations before they catch up with AMD.
the only Intel sku that looks promising is the 3nm xeon (TSMC) in 2022.
Freeman
Yeah, that's what I meant. 6/12 "Enough cores with high clock".
You might say: "Future proof". Well what is Future proof? It's very likely it's not going to be. Show me a good case of a future proof AMD???
And how many generations do you consider as future proof?
£230 for i5 11600k 6/12 is a LOT cheaper than 8/16.
And fine, Ill just buy the next thing when it comes out and sell current. It won't lose value.
I just like the fact I'm running a 4.6ghz on all cores or 4.9ghz on one single.
For me it's plenty..
Rather spend that money on something else.
mackintosh
The i7-980X was insanely future proof, but came with an equally insane price tag.
cucaulay malkin
5950x
Undying
I still have one in my backup pc. Having a 6c/12t cpu in 2010 was beastly. Shame it lacks avx instructions.
nizzen
My soon 4 years old delidded 7980xe @ 4700mhz (49ns memorylatency) has been and is pretty futureproof still 🙂 Pretty much the same Cinebenchscore as my 5950x, more pci-e lanes, still fast in gaming ( faster than Ryzen 3900x tweaked)
It was pretty expensive, but if it will live 8 years, then the value is pretty strong! 4 years soon, and the performance has been VERY good all the time.
nizzen
"same" performance as 4 years old 7980xe 😛. That can't be futureproof 😀
Dualchannel memory and max 3800mhz, few pci-e lanes, ddr4 is soon eol...
PS: I have 5950x, and I don't think it's futureproof at all. But hey, the performance is pretty good today.
beedoo
No, I really meant Cinebench but my dry sense of humour was lost in text translation.
It was more of a tongue in cheak poke at nizzen and co. who like to poke fun at people 'playing Cinebench' with their high core parts... 😀
Undying
That just means intel failed with alder lake not able to beat zen3.
metagamer
F*ck all is future proof these days anyway. I hate the fact I had to build a new rig recently because this is literally the worst time to build.
Anyone buying hardware because "it's future proof" is a fool.
beedoo
What happens if increased threads become more prevalent? Would that mean your Threadripper 1950/2950 actually become viable again?
Certainly if gaming becomes 8 cores or more, the clock speed advantage of the 6 core parts might not be enough.
Wouldn't 5950X only be not viable if low thread, higher clocks - or another architecture entirely becomes the norm for PC's?
metagamer
I just doubled my cores in my new PC and I see no difference in gaming. Zero.
In core heavy tasks, sure, there'll be a difference.
nizzen
It hasn't failed before it's here and I overclocked it to the moon and back 😀 If it can't beat 5950x in all games, then it's a failure in my eyes. Cinebench, I don't care for mainstream platform...
nizzen
Many games NEED low latency and many cores. Threadripper x399 will never be fast in games. The fastest for games for the old 1950x is to disable one CCX and tweak the memory MAX. I managed to get 3600mhz c16 on my old 1950x with Asrock x399 pro. Still it sux compared to the new cpu's now.
BLEH!
And a TDP of 1 kW?
beedoo
Well that totally depends on your definition of fast - no disrespect, but at 3440 x 1440 on RDR2 with maxed out everything, I'm plodding along at 90 FPS - I don't need more - and I don't need DLSS for that. Likewise on Elite Dangerous - which for some reason I'm still playing, I get over 150 FPS with everything maxed out. 80 FPS in Control with no RT etc.
These won't ever be the 'fastest' at playing games - it's not meant to be, but it's still fast.
nizzen
Often when the game is gpubound, the old threadrippers is good enough for most people. My daughter played 2 years with Overwatch on 1950x and 1060 gpu. 200+ fps @ 1080p
