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Samsung 2018 QLED TVs will support 120hz Freesync and VRR
Samsung announced it will release QLED televisions (I am not talking about monitors here) in 2018 that are going to support variable refresh rate technology (VRR) which is possible with HDMI 2.1, as well as FreeSYnc. Samsung announced this at a technology congress in Milan.
The 2018 QLED LCD TV models, as well as the mid-range NU8000, will support refresh rates up to 120 Hz at a Full HD resolution, reports flatpanelshd. next to that, the 2018 Samsung TVs will support two variable refresh rate systems. If you are a PC game, here comes AMD FreeSync. Your PC or compatible console will remain in sync:
FreeSync is one of the systems supported by Samsung’s new TVs, meaning that you can use them as a capable gaming monitor for your PC. Then there are the HDMI 2.1 models, these can support VRR (variable refresh rate), which is the HDMI Organization’s standardized version that pretty much is FreeSync but intended for TVs. Right now Samsung’s 2018 TVs do not feature full HDMI 2.1. These TVs are still based on the HDMI 2.0 interface standard but manufacturers are allowed to cherry-pick certain features from HDMI 2.1 to bring to HDMI 2.0 based TVs.
Samsung also mentions it has further reduced input lag on its 2018 TVs, down to 15.4 ms in the game mode. It is expected to be “less than 7 ms” in VRR mode. In addition, Samsung will implement ‘Fast FRC’ (frame rate compensation), allowing users to use Samsung’s motion compensation system together with a game console for an average of 24ms input lag. Fast FRC is supported by the NU8000 and the 2018 “QLED” LCDs. The Xbox One S and One X will be the first devices to support HDMI VRR. It will be added through a firmware update this year. FreeSync is supported by a range of gaming PCs today.
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#5535105 Posted on: 04/05/2018 01:38 PM
Buy me the TV & I will let you know ;-)
Buy me the TV & I will let you know ;-)
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#5535119 Posted on: 04/05/2018 01:57 PM
FULL HDMI 2.1 support TV/monitors please.
TV/monitor makers like to cheat customers cherry picking what they want to implement from standards and what they won't as they do with fake HDR (400 nits VS 1000 nits) TV/monitors.
FULL HDR (when HDR wars end...) and FULL HDMI 2.1 stardard compliant TV/monitors...
FULL HDMI 2.1 support TV/monitors please.
TV/monitor makers like to cheat customers cherry picking what they want to implement from standards and what they won't as they do with fake HDR (400 nits VS 1000 nits) TV/monitors.
FULL HDR (when HDR wars end...) and FULL HDMI 2.1 stardard compliant TV/monitors...
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#5535120 Posted on: 04/05/2018 01:57 PM
Nice move... and forward!
Nice move... and forward!
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#5535129 Posted on: 04/05/2018 02:24 PM
I'm glad this is happening now, and now any later... They must be realizing the "streaming" sector (Twitch.TV) is selling monitors instead of TV's, and this is a way to get into that huge & growing market.
I'm glad this is happening now, and now any later... They must be realizing the "streaming" sector (Twitch.TV) is selling monitors instead of TV's, and this is a way to get into that huge & growing market.
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#5535134 Posted on: 04/05/2018 02:38 PM
Do you think moves like this could pressure Nvidia to support freesync or will they just support VRR?
Do you think moves like this could pressure Nvidia to support freesync or will they just support VRR?
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#5535140 Posted on: 04/05/2018 03:07 PM
Isnt freesync just an enhanced version of VRR? Arent all VRR monitors essentially Freesync compatible? I think this is a HUGE step towards killing G-Sync / forcing Nvidia to support Freesync....
Do you think moves like this could pressure Nvidia to support freesync or will they just support VRR?
Isnt freesync just an enhanced version of VRR? Arent all VRR monitors essentially Freesync compatible? I think this is a HUGE step towards killing G-Sync / forcing Nvidia to support Freesync....
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#5535142 Posted on: 04/05/2018 03:09 PM
Full HD at 120hz..yawn. Never really cared about freesync either. My current TV already does that. Wake me up when they got a 4k 120hz tv and a video card capable pulling it off.
That being said, I've been using a TV as a monitor for years. Right now using a 43 inch 4k tv as my monitor and not regretting it at all. I know some really care about input lag but I never seemed to notice and much prefer the larger screen.
Full HD at 120hz..yawn. Never really cared about freesync either. My current TV already does that. Wake me up when they got a 4k 120hz tv and a video card capable pulling it off.
That being said, I've been using a TV as a monitor for years. Right now using a 43 inch 4k tv as my monitor and not regretting it at all. I know some really care about input lag but I never seemed to notice and much prefer the larger screen.
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#5535144 Posted on: 04/05/2018 03:11 PM
They will continue to profit from G-Sync as long as they can. Eventually they may have to switch. The more products like these come out, the sooner they will have to consider it.
EDIT: They still need to support all the G-Sync hardware out there, it will be while if they were to open to Free-Sync I think.
Do you think moves like this could pressure Nvidia to support freesync or will they just support VRR?
They will continue to profit from G-Sync as long as they can. Eventually they may have to switch. The more products like these come out, the sooner they will have to consider it.
EDIT: They still need to support all the G-Sync hardware out there, it will be while if they were to open to Free-Sync I think.
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#5535236 Posted on: 04/05/2018 06:34 PM
I've been using a TV as a monitor since flat screens were available. I'll never go back to a small screen.
I'd say that 4k 42" is much nicer then my original 40" 1080p, mainly do to clarity of text, but in general, the situation is great.
personally, I've been waiting for a Free-sync TV, now we just need Navi to be available in store.
So would these now be a suitable replacement for a monitor?
I've been using a TV as a monitor since flat screens were available. I'll never go back to a small screen.
I'd say that 4k 42" is much nicer then my original 40" 1080p, mainly do to clarity of text, but in general, the situation is great.
personally, I've been waiting for a Free-sync TV, now we just need Navi to be available in store.
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#5535237 Posted on: 04/05/2018 06:40 PM
Since monitors have FreeSync the manufacturers wouldn't bother putting in a TV specific technology. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure there are no VRR monitors.
Isnt freesync just an enhanced version of VRR? Arent all VRR monitors essentially Freesync compatible? I think this is a HUGE step towards killing G-Sync / forcing Nvidia to support Freesync....
Since monitors have FreeSync the manufacturers wouldn't bother putting in a TV specific technology. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure there are no VRR monitors.
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#5535244 Posted on: 04/05/2018 06:48 PM
Full HD at 120hz..yawn. Never really cared about freesync either. My current TV already does that. Wake me up when they got a 4k 120hz tv and a video card capable pulling it off.
That being said, I've been using a TV as a monitor for years. Right now using a 43 inch 4k tv as my monitor and not regretting it at all. I know some really care about input lag but I never seemed to notice and much prefer the larger screen.
Unless you're gaming with some wicked 1080ti SLI @ 4k, you would be a prime candidate for getting a VRR/Freesync TV.When you game on a high speed screen with a GPU that can't keep up you have screen tearing which is what VRR solves.
But hey, since you've had one for years you're a pro at this, right?
Right now, i wouldn't go 120Hz as 1080ti isn't g strong enough to keep FPS up A4k.
Full HD at 120hz..yawn. Never really cared about freesync either. My current TV already does that. Wake me up when they got a 4k 120hz tv and a video card capable pulling it off.
That being said, I've been using a TV as a monitor for years. Right now using a 43 inch 4k tv as my monitor and not regretting it at all. I know some really care about input lag but I never seemed to notice and much prefer the larger screen.
Unless you're gaming with some wicked 1080ti SLI @ 4k, you would be a prime candidate for getting a VRR/Freesync TV.When you game on a high speed screen with a GPU that can't keep up you have screen tearing which is what VRR solves.
But hey, since you've had one for years you're a pro at this, right?
Right now, i wouldn't go 120Hz as 1080ti isn't g strong enough to keep FPS up A4k.
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#5535251 Posted on: 04/05/2018 06:56 PM
They will continue to profit from G-Sync as long as they can. Eventually they may have to switch. The more products like these come out, the sooner they will have to consider it.
EDIT: They still need to support all the G-Sync hardware out there, it will be while if they were to open to Free-Sync I think.
Nvidia's competition is AMD gpu's, which they dominate.
Nvidia is selling over priced hardware for PC master race gaming of which TVs, and consoles are of no concern.
They will continue to profit from G-Sync as long as they can. Eventually they may have to switch. The more products like these come out, the sooner they will have to consider it.
EDIT: They still need to support all the G-Sync hardware out there, it will be while if they were to open to Free-Sync I think.
Nvidia's competition is AMD gpu's, which they dominate.
Nvidia is selling over priced hardware for PC master race gaming of which TVs, and consoles are of no concern.
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#5535255 Posted on: 04/05/2018 07:00 PM
You do realize that 1000nits isn't required for something to be HDR, right? It's the number several of the standards have determined to be the the qualifier for their endorsement but it doesn't mean something is or isn't HDR.
TV/monitor makers like to cheat customers cherry picking what they want to implement from standards and what they won't as they do with fake HDR (400 nits VS 1000 nits) TV/monitors.
You do realize that 1000nits isn't required for something to be HDR, right? It's the number several of the standards have determined to be the the qualifier for their endorsement but it doesn't mean something is or isn't HDR.
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#5535278 Posted on: 04/05/2018 07:54 PM
Finally!!!! The "Media Center" TV I've been dreaming of for years is finally here! I was just hoping for 4K and adaptive sync. This also gets QLED, HDMI 2.1 and! 120hz @1080p! I mean, I'd still prefer OLED. But this checks off so many more features then any other TV till now. :-D
Finally!!!! The "Media Center" TV I've been dreaming of for years is finally here! I was just hoping for 4K and adaptive sync. This also gets QLED, HDMI 2.1 and! 120hz @1080p! I mean, I'd still prefer OLED. But this checks off so many more features then any other TV till now. :-D
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So would these now be a suitable replacement for a monitor?