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Ryzen 7 4700G and Ryzen 5 4400G 3DMark performance benchmarks spotted
A luanch of new Renoir “Ryzen 4000” desktop APUs areimminent soon, more and more tests begin to leak. Today, the performance of the Ryzen 7 4700G and Ryzen 5 4400G got leaked in 3DMark (Fire Strike), showing results for that Ryzen 5 series.
While each Vega computing unit at 7nm performs better than a Vega computing unit at 12nm (used in Ryzen 3000 APUs), the Ryzen 5 4400G now only has 7 compute units, compared to 11 that.
This results in the fact that Ryzen 5 4400G reaches 4033 points in the 3DMark Fire Strike graphics test, which is the same as a Ryzen 5 3400G. Meanwhile, the Ryzen 7 4700G reaches 4300 points thanks to an additional computing unit (8).
Regarding the CPU test, there we see advantages in the Ryzen 5 4400G not only thanks to the use of Zen 2, but also thanks to the fact that it now has 6 cores and 12 threads, 50% more than the 4 cores and 8 threads of the Ryzen 5 3400G. This allows him to obtain 19113 points in the physics test, compared to 13200 achieved by a Ryzen 5 3400G. The 4700G reaches 23,392 points, ranking between the Ryzen 7 3700X and 3800X.
These processors are expected to be announced in June and hit the market in July, although there are no specific dates yet.
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#5793783 Posted on: 05/29/2020 03:00 PM
Not necessarily. A bigger cache and better memory compression would make an immense performance difference. But if those things don't change then yeah, you're right.
Until we get better RAM we wont see a decent improvement in APU graphics, so i asume 5400G and 5700G next year will have similar scores to this.
Not necessarily. A bigger cache and better memory compression would make an immense performance difference. But if those things don't change then yeah, you're right.
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#5793902 Posted on: 05/29/2020 06:21 PM
This is pretty much the only legit consumer use case for HBM. A small 2 or 4 GB HBM module wired to the package would change everything with APUs, and could probably be done without even needing a new socket.
The question is, is there even a market for a high performance APU, especially if the price were higher? Maybe in laptops, if the price could be competitive with the current low-end gaming systems with a CPU + GTX1050.
This is pretty much the only legit consumer use case for HBM. A small 2 or 4 GB HBM module wired to the package would change everything with APUs, and could probably be done without even needing a new socket.
The question is, is there even a market for a high performance APU, especially if the price were higher? Maybe in laptops, if the price could be competitive with the current low-end gaming systems with a CPU + GTX1050.
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#5794204 Posted on: 05/30/2020 03:33 PM
I was kinda expecting at some point in seeing triple channel memory which would be 50% more bandwidth. Still i think 4266MT/s ram in a APU should be good but CPU performance would be impacted due to being in ASync with the fabric. I guess once we see it people will try it out.
Not necessarily. A bigger cache and better memory compression would make an immense performance difference. But if those things don't change then yeah, you're right.
I was kinda expecting at some point in seeing triple channel memory which would be 50% more bandwidth. Still i think 4266MT/s ram in a APU should be good but CPU performance would be impacted due to being in ASync with the fabric. I guess once we see it people will try it out.
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#5794302 Posted on: 05/30/2020 11:00 PM
This is pretty much the only legit consumer use case for HBM. A small 2 or 4 GB HBM module wired to the package would change everything with APUs, and could probably be done without even needing a new socket.
The question is, is there even a market for a high performance APU, especially if the price were higher? Maybe in laptops, if the price could be competitive with the current low-end gaming systems with a CPU + GTX1050.
100% agree!
AMD are also in a prime position to do this and quickly too. Using their chiplet design they could use 2 4c/8t CCX, and an I/O die and a fourth die for the HBM....
Stick 2GB, 4GB, and even 8GB HBM chiplet on there. You could then have any CPU core configuration from 2c/4t, 4c,8t, 6c/12t, 8c/16t (just disable as needed). You have the I/O die for the CPU cache, and controllers. It would make sense to use the extra space for a HBM module. Obviously they could still use system RAM for increased VRAM and then stream in assests/data when needed or just use the system RAM as VRAM for when the iGPU is in an idle state such as on desktop, or doing simple tasks and then switch over to the HBM when a fullscreen 3d application kicks in.
Wishful thinking..... or "mental masturbation" I like to call it
This is pretty much the only legit consumer use case for HBM. A small 2 or 4 GB HBM module wired to the package would change everything with APUs, and could probably be done without even needing a new socket.
The question is, is there even a market for a high performance APU, especially if the price were higher? Maybe in laptops, if the price could be competitive with the current low-end gaming systems with a CPU + GTX1050.
100% agree!
AMD are also in a prime position to do this and quickly too. Using their chiplet design they could use 2 4c/8t CCX, and an I/O die and a fourth die for the HBM....
Stick 2GB, 4GB, and even 8GB HBM chiplet on there. You could then have any CPU core configuration from 2c/4t, 4c,8t, 6c/12t, 8c/16t (just disable as needed). You have the I/O die for the CPU cache, and controllers. It would make sense to use the extra space for a HBM module. Obviously they could still use system RAM for increased VRAM and then stream in assests/data when needed or just use the system RAM as VRAM for when the iGPU is in an idle state such as on desktop, or doing simple tasks and then switch over to the HBM when a fullscreen 3d application kicks in.
Wishful thinking..... or "mental masturbation" I like to call it
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Until we get better RAM we wont see a decent improvement in APU graphics, so i asume 5400G and 5700G next year will have similar scores to this.